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Re: rules

To: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
Subject: Re: rules
From: "Kim & Brad Johnson" <b091696@snowhill.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:06:03 -0600
Thanks Dan....I was afraid of that...but it didn't hurt to explore the
territory.  How about interiors and the business of "interior gutting"?
I've seen just door panels all the way to full interiors with carpet (my
idea of a fire hazard).  Are just door panels enough for a production car?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
To: Kim & Brad Johnson <b091696@snowhill.com>
Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 12:28
Subject: Re: rules


>The general intent of rules for production class vehicles is outlined on
pg.
>58. No modifications are allowed that changes the configuration of the
>vehicle. A step pan would alter the under chassis in such a way as to
change
>the way air flows under the car. OEM aero devices are allowed. For
>clarification - a step pan is usually used in a vehicle that no longer has
>stock floor boards such as a roadster or CC using a non-stock frame. In
>production class you must use the stock frame and floor board, so - no step
>pans allowed.
>
>Dan
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kim & Brad Johnson <b091696@snowhill.com>
>To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
>Cc: Land Speed List <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 9:48 AM
>Subject: Re: rules
>
>
>> Hey Dan, Chuck, John, etc...
>>
>>      Lets say I have a production car.  It says no streamlining and no
>belly
>> pan(page 60).  Streamlining (page 38) talks about belly pans (item e),
but
>> not step pans.  We've said that a step pan is not a belly pan for
>> classification purposes (note page 20).  So......Why can't I run a step
>pan,
>> since it is not mentioned in the definition of streamlining (a thru k on
>> pages 38 &39).  It doesn't direct the air under the car.  It doesn't
limit
>> the air under the car.  It doesn't control airflow around the car or
>within
>> the car (first paragraph page 39).
>>      Of course, in 22 years with Uncle Sam, I've been accused before of
>not
>> understanding the BIG picture.  (references are to 99 rulebook)
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>
>> To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>> Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 8:18
>> Subject: Re: rules
>>
>>
>> >Chuck & list,
>> >
>> >Reference pg 38 of the 1999 rulebook, Streamling - if a streamling
device
>> >has the APPARENT purpose of controlling airflow it is then considered as
>> >streamling for classification. A belly pan and a step pan are covered by
>> >separate limitations for construction. Note on pg 20 that a step pan
>built
>> >to specs CANNOT be used as a portion of a belly pan. The pans are two
>> >separate items used for different reasons, allowed in some classes but
>not
>> >all classes.
>> >
>> >Dan Warner
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>> >To: Chuck Rothfuss <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
>> >Cc: LandSpeed <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 5:28 AM
>> >Subject: rules
>> >
>> >
>> >>     Chuck
>> >>
>> >>     If you want to run say /CC with your sedan and install a belly
pan,
>> >than
>> >> it must cover at least 51% of the bottom of the car to be considered a
>> >belly
>> >> pan. It can be larger say 75% or 100% but not smaller 48%.
>> >>     You can run a smaller pan in the /ALT class...it's called a step
>> >> pan...and is based on it's location, between the firewall and the rear
>> >axle,
>> >> not on the percentage of it's size.
>> >>     You can't run a pan of any kind in the /PRO or /GC classes.
>> >>
>> >>     John Beckett, LSR #79
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Chuck Rothfuss" <crothfuss@coastalnet.com>
>> >> To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 7:00 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: vinyl numbers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > John,
>> >> >   Now for my latest rules question.  Belly pans.  A belly pan is a
>flat
>> >> > plate that cover 51% or more of the underside of a car.  Does that
>mean
>> >I
>> >> > can make one that only covers 49% and have a 2% safety margin?  How
>> >about
>> >> > partial belly pans in classes that strictly prohibit belly pans?
(Gas
>> >> Coupe)
>> >> > Using the 51% rule, it ain't a belly pan unless it covers 51%.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chuck
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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