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Re: Fuel and Gas Class

To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>,
Subject: Re: Fuel and Gas Class
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:06:56 -0500
Now there is a Kernal of knowledge from Left Field.... Hey John... tell us
about this.... sounds interesting.. K
----- Original Message -----
From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
To: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Fuel and Gas Class


>     John
>
>     I think what Dan was trying to say is the rear steer has been tried
> before mostly unsuccessfully. I know cause I was one that tried it. The
only
> high speed success that I am aware off was the Thrust project, but they
had
> a $2,000,000. computer making the necessary corrections for the "pilot".
If
> you asked Andy Green today about rear steer I don't think he would offer
any
> encouragement for the concept.
>     Another point I would like to make however, is that none of the
> governing bodies need to worry about adding rules to ban rear steer
> vehicles. It just doesn't work at speed and I don't believe you'll ever
get
> it going fast enough to get into trouble. And if you do somehow manage to
> make it work, well God bless you, innovation is what it's all about.
>
> John Beckett, LSR #79
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "john robinson" <john@engr.wisc.edu>
> To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Fuel and Gas Class
>
>
> > Howdy,
> > ohhhh yeah, Definitions section IV-2 Automobile.(some snipping)  ....at
> > least 4 wheels not aligned....(snip).. steering assured by at least (2)
> > front wheels, .(snip) .....One pair must be on the same transverse
> centerline.
> > OK, then the Special Construction Category statement "Innovation is
> > unlimited." is governed by the definitions sec IV?
> > John still looking at rear steer concept Robinson
> >
> > At 08:22 AM 5/24/00 , you wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > Also look at the portion defining automobile which indicates that at
least
> > two wheels must be on the same axle. There is a statement that requires
> the
> > steering to be by the front wheels as our friends with the rear steer MR
> > found out a few years ago. Sorry I am unable to quote chapter and verse
on
> > this one as my books are in my race day brief case.
> >
> > Dan (you can lose pistons without NOS too) Warner
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>
> > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 5:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fuel and Gas Class
> >
> >
> >  > howdy,
> >  > Andy Green did it like that, only cost 30 million $ or so and took
> what,
> >  > 6-7 years..........
> >  > I think you >can< run in line wheels, just need to have four of
them(or
> >  > more)  ifn I remember the rule book on this one....looking it up now,
> aha!
> >  > ...."must have at least four wheels, but they need not be arranged in
a
> >  > rectangular configuration" , Streamliner section V page 41....is what
> the
> >  > '00 rules say...
> >  >
> >  > At 10:13 AM 5/23/00 , you wrote:
> >  > Should still work, maybe? Per the rule book the wheels must be
offset,
> >  > cannot be inline. See Al teagues car. Otherwise isnit it classified
as
> a
> >  > "ahem" motorcycle or some such? But, adding the stagger control to
the
> > rear
> >  > does indeed work same as front stagger. Wow, what a concept!!!
> Shouldn't
> >  > take more'n ten years to sort it out...
> >  >
> >  > mayf
> >  > At 02:39 PM 5/23/00 EDT, V4GR@aol.com wrote:
> >  >  >Won't work in Jacks car. Front wheels are inline. Have to switch
> system
> > to
> >  >  >rear wheels. Should work than.  Rich Fox
> >  >  >
> >  >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > L.E. Mayfield
> >  > 124 Maximillion Drive
> >  > Madison, Al. 35758-8171
> >  > ph: 1-256-837-1051
> >  >
> >  > http://home.hiwaay.net/~lemay
> >  >
> >  > lemay@hiwaay.net
> >  >
> >  > Sunbeam Tiger, B9471136
> >  > Sunbeam Alpine Bonneville Land Speed Racer,
> >  > '66 Hydroplane Drag Boat (390 FE)
> >
> >
> >               John Robinson, Mechanician
> >    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
> >                  1513 University Ave.
> >                   Madison, Wi. 53706
> >                      608-262-3606
> >                    FAX 608-265-2316
> > Current World Land Speed Record Holder
> > Bonneville Salt Flats
> >             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
> >    131.333 MPH set 1995
> >    136.666 MPH set 1996
> >
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