I suggest that anyone interested in Streamliner design buy a
copy
(www.sae.org) of SAE paper number 660390;
The Aerodynamic Design of the Goldenrod -
To Increase Stability, Traction, and Speed
Walter H Kroff
Lockheed-California Co.
I believe that most Streamliner "speed secrets" are covered
in
this 20 page paper. It's about $20.00 for nonmembers.
Bryan
Wester S Potter wrote:
>
> Just spent some time with Fred Larsen talking about his #115 streamliner.
> Lynn Yeakle who was an engineer at Lockheed did the body on that car. I
> have never seen Fred in trouble with the car but I know he has had at least
> one trip to the hospital in SLC after an incident on the salt. No idea if
> that was in the 'liner or the roadster. From the way Fred has tooled that
> 'liner up and down the salt with no incidents in the last 14 years I'd say
> an aeronautical engineer did a pretty good job on the car. Then there is
> the ground effects 'liner Roger Lessman brought to the salt with lexan
> plastic skirts all the way around. Went pretty fast and ended up flying
> very well.
> Wes
> ----------
> > From: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> > To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > CC: ARDUNDOUG@aol.com, land-speed@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Flying Streamliners
> > Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 11:40:40 -0400
> >
> >I think i would welcome someone from Boeing, MD,Lockheed or maybe Bert
> >Rutan I am sure has a big clue how this all works. If many don't want
> >them designing for them i would gladly have them do whatever they think
> >is right for me anytime
> >Dahlgren
> >
> >
> >Dick J wrote:
> >>
> >> That's true Doug, but the one main difference is
> >> that aeronautical engineers are trained to
> >> develop those aeronautics on all surfaces for a
> >> vehicle that is receiving lift from it's own
> >> design. The car doesn't want any lift, and there
> >> are factors close to the ground that just aren't
> >> fully explored in aeronautical engineering
> >> classes. Even an airplane won't act the same
> >> flying next to the ground as it does once it
> >> reaches true air space. But I do think that
> >> somebody with the background of an aeronautical
> >> engineer would take all of that into
> >> consideration, he'd just be making some educated
> >> guesses when it comes to operating in ground
> >> space and with designing the bottom of the car.
> >>
> >> Better an educated guess than unfounded trial
> >> and error though.
> >>
> >> Dick J
> >>
> >> --- ARDUNDOUG@aol.com wrote:
> >> > In a message dated 06/09/2000 4:47:32 AM
> >> > Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> > dwarner@electrorent.com writes:
> >> >
> >> > << Amen!!!
> >> > >>
> >> > Dan,
> >> > A retired Douglas Aircraft Aeronautical
> >> > Engineer from LA (now living in
> >> > Twain Harte, CA) named Don Elder did the aero
> >> > work on my Modified Roadster
> >> > and it seems to work very well. Wind resistance
> >> > is wind resistance, whether
> >> > on an airplane or a car. When doing a car one
> >> > just doesn't want the thing to
> >> > fly.
> >> > Elder does "wind-wizard" work for a number
> >> > of racers, including designing
> >> > wings for race cars...............Doug King
> >>
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