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Re: New Category

To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>,
Subject: Re: New Category
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:59:55 -0500
Yep John... You got a Vote Too....

But the 74 Camaro could be UPDATED to an 81....  and I don't think there
are going to be many 55 Chevy's out there running no matter what the class.

If we go down this road... ya gotta look closely at the actual difference
in the Altered Trim.... which actually equals Zero on the end of the
Day....The cars are the same... but by going to 81 we are also including a
ton of Mustangs and other types of cars that folks might want to run....

Personally I am just trying to make more HP to make up for the Aerodynamic
disadvantage.... I mean if you look at it this way ... My D Fuel Altered
ran as fast as Ed's C/GT car... obviously my Hp numbers are Just fine... (
come on Ed you didn't think I was through yet did you? )

Keith.... ( thinking of some geek saying my tail lights aren't right for
the 74.. or some such silliness )

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> From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: New Category
> Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:58 AM
> 
> Dan / SCTA
> 
> I want to thank you all for this unprecedented and historic opportunity,
for
> all LSR racers, to vote on this new class structure. This is great.
> 
> However, I feel strongly that there is one other line we need to vote
> on...that being the year cut off for this category.  Personally, I agree
> with Dave Dahlgren, '1981' is way to new for a "Nostalgia" class.  Can't
> this be set back to 1974, pre EFI anything? Old Keith's Camaro, as an
> example...can still be re-configured to a '74, compete in the new
> class...and beat up on the '53 Studebakers, '55 Chevys, '65 Mustangs, '72
> Gremlins. etc.
> 
> John Beckett, LSR #79, E/FCC
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:42 AM
> Subject: New Category
> 
> 
> > Here it is!
> >
> > Included in this email is the proposal for the new CATEGORY which will
> break
> > the current Modified Category classes by year. This proposal will
create a
> > new category between the existing Vintage and Modified Categories. The
> body
> > year break will be 1949 to 1981 inclusive.
> >
> > Note that the engine breaks are restrictive as the new category will
deal
> > with AMERICAN coupe and sedan bodies only. There will be no Competition
> > Coupe classes. The reasoning is that competition coupe rules are very
> > liberal and the choice of body is a personal issue. All other rules in
the
> > category will be the same as the current Modified category as far as
aero,
> > engine swaps, transmission, etc.
> >
> > You have the opportunity to cast a vote as to the degree of mechanical
> > sophistication in this new category. The name of the category is not
yet
> > decided. You also have the chance to name this category through a
contest
> > administered by Jon Amo on his web site www.landracing.com.
> > When choosing your name for the category please be aware that our class
> > naming convention is laborious at best. An example would be:
XXO/BACFAlt
> (AC
> > = American Classic). Lets not make the class name longer than the
vehicle.
> >
> > Please distribute the proposal to your buddies who may not be internet
> > savvy. This is an unprecedented opportunity to take part in the
process.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Dan Warner
> >
> > Southern California Timing Association 2001 Rule Book Proposal
> >
> > The following sections are recommended rules changes to add the
"Nostalgia
> > Category" into the new 2001Rule Book.
> >
> > Purpose:
> > To split the Coupe/Sedan car classes using newer aerodynamic cars (1982
to
> > present) from the older less aerodynamic cars (1949 through 1981). This
> > change
> > will make the older cars more competitive and still allow the newer
cars
> to
> > compete amongst themselves.  All old records will be re-established and
> > those records set by newer cars will stay with them in the current
> Modified
> > Category classes. Here is an example; John Rain's car (1989 Indy 500
> > Pontiac) record of 274.5 MPH for D/PS will stay with him in the current
> > Production Category class, but in the newly established Nostalgia
> Category,
> > Ron Hall's car (1963 Avanti) old record of 195.6 MPH will be re-entered
> into
> > the record book for D/NPS class. This way no one looses a record and
the
> old
> > records are reinstated. Carefully read the two options in the Nostalgia
> > Category and vote your
> > opinion on the spaces provided.  The two options are; Option 1A or 1B
on
> one
> > subject and Option 2A or 2B on the other subject, you must vote for one
of
> > the two choices for each option.  Also, vote for or against the
proposal
> of
> > adding the new Nostalgia Category to the 2001 Rule Book.
> > The goal is to have every race car owner in the Coupe or Sedan class
vote
> on
> > these changes. The race car owners voting can be those who race at
> > Bonneville, the Dry Lakes, Maxon or all venues. Each race car owner
> > will have one vote on the outcome of this consideration of rule
changes.
> > Its important that all owners vote and mail their results to Bob Sykes
Jr.
> > by no later than November 1, 2000.  At that cutoff date, the ballots
will
> be
> > tallied and the  results will impact on what changes go into the
Southern
> > California Timing Associatation Rule Book for the year 2001. So please
> > don't sit on this, study the changes then vote and mail your results
> ASAP!!
> >
> > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> > The Nostalgia Car category will consists of  American coupe or sedan
cars
> > from 1949 through and including 1981.
> > Note:  the "N" has been added to the following categories to indicate
the
> > Nostalgia Car Class.
> > .
> >
> > NOSTALGIA FUEL ALTERED COUPE - /NBFALT, /NFALT
> > NOSTALGIA GAS ALTERED COUPE - /NBGALT, /NGALT
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO,  and V4.
> >
> > NOSTALGIA GAS COUPE and SEDAN - /NBGC, /NGC
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4
> >
> >
> > NOSTALGIA PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPRO
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, and V4.
> >
> > .
> > NOSTALGIA SUPERCHARGED PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPS
> >
> > Engine classes allowed are:
> > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO.
> >
> > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> >
> > (Option #1A, EFI is allowed)
> > (Option #1B, EFI is not allowed)
> >
> > (Option #2A, computer controlled ignition timing is allowed)
> > (Option #2B, computer controlled ignition timing is not allowed).
> >
> > VOTING FORM FOR COUPE/SEDAN CAR OWNERS
> >
> > OWNER'S NAME:    print name ___________________________________
> >
> > OWNER'S SIGNATURE:   ___________________________________
> >
> > DATE VOTED:    ___________________________________
> >
> > HOME ADDRESS:    ___________________________________
> >
> >                                    ___________________________________
> >
> >
> > PHONE NUMBER    ___________________________________
> >
> > CAR'S CLASS & ENTRY #:  ___________________________________
> >
> > LAST RACE ENTERED:   ___________________________________
> >
> >
> > ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE NOSTALGIA CATEGORY?
> >
> > YES   _____
> >
> >
> > NO     _____
> >
> > VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #1
> >                                                             OPTION 1A
> ____
> > (YES, EFI)
> >                                                             (Electronic
> Fuel
> > Injection)              or
> >                                                             OPTION 1B
> ____
> > (NO, EFI)
> >
> >  VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #2
> >                                                             OPTION 2A
> ____
> > (YES,CMPTR )
> >                                                             (Computer
> > ignition timing)                  or
> >                                                             OPTION 2B
> ____
> > (NO, CMPTR)
> >
> > "AFTER YOU'VE VOTED SEND THIS LAST PAGE TO:"
> > Bob Sykes Jr. (Coupes & Sedan Committee Chairman)
> > 6815 Scott Circle,
> > Cypress, California 90630    Any questions, call Bob at home (714)
> 527-6907
> >
> > email: Dan Warner - dwarner@electrorent.com  Bobby Sykes Jr.
> > drylakes207@yahoo.com
> >
> > Please vote by November 1,  2000 so  the Southern California Timing
> > Association can make a count of the votes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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