If you weren't around to boast (especially about a measly 3 mph) I would have
to assume the Alabama heat melted your synapses. But the again, someone said
"If you can do it, it ain't bragging!" As for your musical tastes, when I left
Alabama, they only had 2 types of music- Country and Western.
Ed
Keith Turk wrote:
> Sorry Ed.... Just couldn't pass on the opportunity... you'll make that Next
> Pass ....Next Time ...Next Year.... just so you don't have to listen to me
> Boast... I love it... and Linda wanted a 219 anyway ... we both came up
> short....
>
> As for the Altered Sports.... Hmmm seems like a good idea to me... but what
> do I know... hell I like Rock and Roll Music and Country.... and classical
> and and and and.....
>
> K
>
> ----------
> > From: Ed Van Scoy <edvs@uswest.net>
> > To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> > Cc: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Dan Warner
> <dwarner@electrorent.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: New Category
> > Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:31 PM
> >
> > Keith, are you still sniffing that medical grade giggle gas you use? Now,
> if I
> > installed one of those red "grenade" buttons on my steering wheel, why
> hell, I
> > could go real fast too-for a short time anyway ;-) Yes, in Alt, you can
> trim
> > your brick; I am stuck with the huge body openings in the front of my car
> as
> > long as I stay in Pro class. No, I'm not whining, that is the rule and as
> long
> > as I stay in GT I have to play that way. Now if we could "invent" an
> Altered
> > Sports class.........................
> > Ed (Keith, why ARE you running those illegal tail lights & why am I still
> in
> > GT?)
> >
> > Keith Turk wrote:
> >
> > > Personally I am just trying to make more HP to make up for the
> Aerodynamic
> > > disadvantage.... I mean if you look at it this way ... My D Fuel
> Altered
> > > ran as fast as Ed's C/GT car... obviously my Hp numbers are Just
> fine... (
> > > come on Ed you didn't think I was through yet did you? )
> > >
> > > Keith.... ( thinking of some geek saying my tail lights aren't right
> for
> > > the 74.. or some such silliness )
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > From: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
> > > > To: Dan Warner <dwarner@electrorent.com>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: Re: New Category
> > > > Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:58 AM
> > > >
> > > > Dan / SCTA
> > > >
> > > > I want to thank you all for this unprecedented and historic
> opportunity,
> > > for
> > > > all LSR racers, to vote on this new class structure. This is great.
> > > >
> > > > However, I feel strongly that there is one other line we need to vote
> > > > on...that being the year cut off for this category. Personally, I
> agree
> > > > with Dave Dahlgren, '1981' is way to new for a "Nostalgia" class.
> Can't
> > > > this be set back to 1974, pre EFI anything? Old Keith's Camaro, as an
> > > > example...can still be re-configured to a '74, compete in the new
> > > > class...and beat up on the '53 Studebakers, '55 Chevys, '65 Mustangs,
> '72
> > > > Gremlins. etc.
> > > >
> > > > John Beckett, LSR #79, E/FCC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
> > > > To: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:42 AM
> > > > Subject: New Category
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Here it is!
> > > > >
> > > > > Included in this email is the proposal for the new CATEGORY which
> will
> > > > break
> > > > > the current Modified Category classes by year. This proposal will
> > > create a
> > > > > new category between the existing Vintage and Modified Categories.
> The
> > > > body
> > > > > year break will be 1949 to 1981 inclusive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that the engine breaks are restrictive as the new category
> will
> > > deal
> > > > > with AMERICAN coupe and sedan bodies only. There will be no
> Competition
> > > > > Coupe classes. The reasoning is that competition coupe rules are
> very
> > > > > liberal and the choice of body is a personal issue. All other rules
> in
> > > the
> > > > > category will be the same as the current Modified category as far
> as
> > > aero,
> > > > > engine swaps, transmission, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > You have the opportunity to cast a vote as to the degree of
> mechanical
> > > > > sophistication in this new category. The name of the category is
> not
> > > yet
> > > > > decided. You also have the chance to name this category through a
> > > contest
> > > > > administered by Jon Amo on his web site www.landracing.com.
> > > > > When choosing your name for the category please be aware that our
> class
> > > > > naming convention is laborious at best. An example would be:
> > > XXO/BACFAlt
> > > > (AC
> > > > > = American Classic). Lets not make the class name longer than the
> > > vehicle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please distribute the proposal to your buddies who may not be
> internet
> > > > > savvy. This is an unprecedented opportunity to take part in the
> > > process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan Warner
> > > > >
> > > > > Southern California Timing Association 2001 Rule Book Proposal
> > > > >
> > > > > The following sections are recommended rules changes to add the
> > > "Nostalgia
> > > > > Category" into the new 2001Rule Book.
> > > > >
> > > > > Purpose:
> > > > > To split the Coupe/Sedan car classes using newer aerodynamic cars
> (1982
> > > to
> > > > > present) from the older less aerodynamic cars (1949 through 1981).
> This
> > > > > change
> > > > > will make the older cars more competitive and still allow the newer
> > > cars
> > > > to
> > > > > compete amongst themselves. All old records will be re-established
> and
> > > > > those records set by newer cars will stay with them in the current
> > > > Modified
> > > > > Category classes. Here is an example; John Rain's car (1989 Indy
> 500
> > > > > Pontiac) record of 274.5 MPH for D/PS will stay with him in the
> current
> > > > > Production Category class, but in the newly established Nostalgia
> > > > Category,
> > > > > Ron Hall's car (1963 Avanti) old record of 195.6 MPH will be
> re-entered
> > > > into
> > > > > the record book for D/NPS class. This way no one looses a record
> and
> > > the
> > > > old
> > > > > records are reinstated. Carefully read the two options in the
> Nostalgia
> > > > > Category and vote your
> > > > > opinion on the spaces provided. The two options are; Option 1A or
> 1B
> > > on
> > > > one
> > > > > subject and Option 2A or 2B on the other subject, you must vote for
> one
> > > of
> > > > > the two choices for each option. Also, vote for or against the
> > > proposal
> > > > of
> > > > > adding the new Nostalgia Category to the 2001 Rule Book.
> > > > > The goal is to have every race car owner in the Coupe or Sedan
> class
> > > vote
> > > > on
> > > > > these changes. The race car owners voting can be those who race at
> > > > > Bonneville, the Dry Lakes, Maxon or all venues. Each race car owner
> > > > > will have one vote on the outcome of this consideration of rule
> > > changes.
> > > > > Its important that all owners vote and mail their results to Bob
> Sykes
> > > Jr.
> > > > > by no later than November 1, 2000. At that cutoff date, the
> ballots
> > > will
> > > > be
> > > > > tallied and the results will impact on what changes go into the
> > > Southern
> > > > > California Timing Associatation Rule Book for the year 2001. So
> please
> > > > > don't sit on this, study the changes then vote and mail your
> results
> > > > ASAP!!
> > > > >
> > > > > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> > > > > The Nostalgia Car category will consists of American coupe or
> sedan
> > > cars
> > > > > from 1949 through and including 1981.
> > > > > Note: the "N" has been added to the following categories to
> indicate
> > > the
> > > > > Nostalgia Car Class.
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > > NOSTALGIA FUEL ALTERED COUPE - /NBFALT, /NFALT
> > > > > NOSTALGIA GAS ALTERED COUPE - /NBGALT, /NGALT
> > > > >
> > > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4.
> > > > >
> > > > > NOSTALGIA GAS COUPE and SEDAN - /NBGC, /NGC
> > > > >
> > > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, XXF, XXO, and V4
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > NOSTALGIA PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPRO
> > > > >
> > > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO, and V4.
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > > NOSTALGIA SUPERCHARGED PRODUCTION COUPE and SEDAN - /NPS
> > > > >
> > > > > Engine classes allowed are:
> > > > > AA, A, B, C, D, E, F, XF, XO.
> > > > >
> > > > > NOSTALGIA CATEGORY
> > > > >
> > > > > (Option #1A, EFI is allowed)
> > > > > (Option #1B, EFI is not allowed)
> > > > >
> > > > > (Option #2A, computer controlled ignition timing is allowed)
> > > > > (Option #2B, computer controlled ignition timing is not allowed).
> > > > >
> > > > > VOTING FORM FOR COUPE/SEDAN CAR OWNERS
> > > > >
> > > > > OWNER'S NAME: print name ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > OWNER'S SIGNATURE: ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > DATE VOTED: ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > HOME ADDRESS: ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > >
> ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PHONE NUMBER ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > CAR'S CLASS & ENTRY #: ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > LAST RACE ENTERED: ___________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE NOSTALGIA CATEGORY?
> > > > >
> > > > > YES _____
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > NO _____
> > > > >
> > > > > VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #1
> > > > > OPTION
> 1A
> > > > ____
> > > > > (YES, EFI)
> > > > >
> (Electronic
> > > > Fuel
> > > > > Injection) or
> > > > > OPTION
> 1B
> > > > ____
> > > > > (NO, EFI)
> > > > >
> > > > > VOTE FOR ONE ON OPTION #2
> > > > > OPTION
> 2A
> > > > ____
> > > > > (YES,CMPTR )
> > > > >
> (Computer
> > > > > ignition timing) or
> > > > > OPTION
> 2B
> > > > ____
> > > > > (NO, CMPTR)
> > > > >
> > > > > "AFTER YOU'VE VOTED SEND THIS LAST PAGE TO:"
> > > > > Bob Sykes Jr. (Coupes & Sedan Committee Chairman)
> > > > > 6815 Scott Circle,
> > > > > Cypress, California 90630 Any questions, call Bob at home (714)
> > > > 527-6907
> > > > >
> > > > > email: Dan Warner - dwarner@electrorent.com Bobby Sykes Jr.
> > > > > drylakes207@yahoo.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Please vote by November 1, 2000 so the Southern California Timing
> > > > > Association can make a count of the votes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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