My fingers were moving so fast one at a time that my brain stopped
functioning. I did not set any records at all. WE did. Without Bryan
Savage's engine and a hard working crew, it never would have happened. It
was truly a team accomplishment.
Howard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nafzger" <nafzger@vtc.net>
To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>; "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
Cc: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: International Records
> Setting a record has always been defined as performing against a standard.
> The recognized standard in land speed racing has always been a two way
> average across the same relative piece of real estate. You cannot claim
any
> record with a one way pass. Tail wind, down hill, etc. Why do we always
want
> to make it easier to set records? My records were set when you had to make
a
> qualifying run over the record and then the two way pass in opposite
> directions to get the record. I was not happy when they took the
qualifying
> pass out of the equation and I think all the recent records that have been
> set with two passes in the same direction should have an asterisk beside
> them identifying that fact.
> I will accept the fact that I am old fashioned and that they name streets
> after me. They are called "one Way"
> I have even been called opinionated but what do those people know?
>
> Howard
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
> Cc: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: International Records
>
>
> > Okay Jon.... Relax and think a bit here.... don't jump to the same
> > conclusions I jumped to.... I agreed with you up front.... but then
Logic
> > Prevailed... or at least that is my opinion... and YES I ASSUME lot's of
> > things....
> >
> > Here is the Truth as I know it with my car and ONLY my car... I run
15-18%
> > faster at Bonneville then I do at Maxton. That gives a guy running
> > Bonneville a 15% minimum advantage over me at Maxton.... Now if you do
the
> > same thing for Cars at El Mirage then I think you can come to the same
> > conclusion that these Venues are not as Fast as Bonneville.... Let
enough
> of
> > us go to Lake Gairdner and I think your going to find there is a Big
> > advantage to running there with a 5 mile course at Virtual Sea level....
> >
> > So what if you have to do it twice.... you have 5 times the room and
less
> > traction at a Higher Altitude and it's Proven to be a Faster course then
> all
> > the others so far.... ( if the salt continues to improve it will be even
> > better still )
> >
> > My Point is if someone beats the Bonneville record somewhere else in a
> Legal
> > class car..... that person should hold the International record for that
> > class.... It's not going to change the Bonneville record.... only the
> Level
> > one has to go to at Bonneville to set the INTERNATIONAL record for that
> type
> > of car.... Otherwise he would be setting a National record at
> Bonneville....
> > ( it would still qualify as a 2 club record as you set a record at
> > Bonneville over Two Bills in my case ...( BIG HOPE HERE))
> >
> > That is the logic that I came down to.... Problem with making them
> > consecutive is Time limitations for El Mirage and Muroc... they don't
have
> > adequate track surface and area to do back to back record runs....
> >
> > Keith
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
> > To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> > Cc: "Joe Amo" <jkamo@rapidnet.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: International Records
> >
> >
> > > Keith List,
> > >
> > > But the one thing all records at Bonneville and FIA records have that
> make
> > them
> > > more valuable and recognizable is the average of two speeds over the
> same
> > real
> > > estate. Not just one run with a trap speeds. That has always been the
> > glory of
> > > land speed racing, that not only did you only do it once, but twice,
> over
> > the
> > > same real estate but that also shows durability with a motor thats an
> > important
> > > factor, some can say they once did it, but bonneville records and FIA
> > records
> > > show they did it twice within an allotted time period.
> > >
> > > Jonathan Amo
> > > www.landracing.com
> > >
> > > Jonathan Amo
> > > www.landracing.com
> > >
> > > Keith Turk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Okay Joe.... lets take that as an example then.... You say there is
a
> > > > difference between say... Maxton and Bonneville.... and I happen to
> > > > agree.... at Bonneville you have 4 miles to get up to speed....
where
> is
> > the
> > > > challange compared to ONE mile and a 132' trap.... or at El Mirage
on
> > Dirt
> > > > at 1.3 miles? or Muroc on Talcum Powder at 1.5 miles and a One way
> > average
> > > > as the record.... Personally I think the short courses are severaly
> > > > disadvantaged over the Long Course at Bville.... shoot even the
Short
> > course
> > > > is better.....
> > > >
> > > > Why not?
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