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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL*NO LBC CONTENT* DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:11:43 -0400charset="iso-8859-1"
I can't drop this, can I?

Most violent crime is committed within the criminal element and not to the
rest of the population. N'est c'est pas? ( is it not so? )  Most of the rest
is domestic and a result of alcohol ( or other 'substance' abuse ) or
financial stress or a combination.

Texas is held out as the only state with a high incidence of violent crime,
citizen carry rights and capital punishment.  Correct me if I am wrong.
Normally, violent crime diminishes with increases in firearm ownership and
particulary 'carry rights'.

Bad news makes press.

The 'money around' is inconsequential as long as the population has enough.
In some ways this is a bad thing for Canada where 'Free trade' is
considered.  We used to be fairly socialist.  ( What the heck, pay someone
not to commit crime?? Beats the heck out of being a victim. )  We now have
to drop 'services' to diminish the debt which really has not to do with
social assistance, but ... someone has to take less ...


-----Original Message-----
From Brad Fornal <toyman at digitex.net>
To: RBHouston@aol.com <RBHouston@aol.com>
Cc: type79@ix.netcom.com <type79@ix.netcom.com>; spridgets@autox.team.net
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: July 12, 2000 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL*NO LBC CONTENT* DELETE NOW IF NOT INTERESTED


>I understand that the crime rate in places like Las Vegas isn't higher than
other
>places, despite there being lots of money around, is because of the law
that
>allows Nevada residents to be licensed to openly carry a weapon.  Crash, is
this
>true or is it a Texas myth?
>
>RBHouston@aol.com wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 07/12/2000 8:42:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> type79@ix.netcom.com writes:
>>
>> << questions that always go through my mind when the
>>  "defense of person and property" argument is raised.
>>
>>  What is the occurrence rate of residential break-ins in which the
intruders
>> are
>>  armed?
>>
>>  Of those break-ins, what is the rate of injuries, minor or fatal, to
>> occupants
>>  of those homes?
>>
>>  Of those break-ins, what is the rate of successful defenses by armed
home
>>  owners?
>>
>>  Personally, I don't buy these "wild west" arguments. I would feel as
>> violated as
>>  the next person if my home were burglarized, but I don't think the
intruder
>>  should be put to death for breaking and entering.  >>
>>
>> Jay,
>>
>> All I can say to your side of the argument is that if I am the one whose
>> house is broken into the very last things I will want to contemplate is
the
>> odds against it happening, or the odds that I may go through it unharmed.
>>
>> The odd are I will never flip my midget.  How often does that happen in
the
>> US, but I do wear my seat belt and I am shopping for a roll bar.
>>
>> I want to control as much as possible about the circumstances that may
take
>> my life.  The seat belts, the roll bar, the possible break in.  I do not
want
>> to leave it up to the grace of God, or the grace of some punk that breaks
>> into my house, as to whether I may or may not die.
>>
>> As for the successful defense of a home, the percentage of those that did
it
>> successfully are the ones living to tell about it.  The mistaken
shootings of
>> friends or family point more to a need for training (or safer
neighborhoods
>> where no one need worry), rather than the removal of guns from the home.
>>
>> Having said that, I personally do not keep a loaded gun in the house, or
even
>> have quick access to a gun from my bedroom, but I do firmly believe in
>> anyone's right to do so.
>>
>> And no, that does not extend to the right of of doper to keep a loaded
stolen
>> gun within reach of a kid in a crack house.
>>
>> Always good arguing with you Jay.  Thanks,
>>
>> R. Houston
>>
>> PS..no I do not think an intruder should be put to death for breaking and
>> entering, but I would like every burgler or potential burgler in America
to
>> worry that breaking into my house could cost him his life.  Perhaps that
is
>> why crime has shown a decrease in the 27 or so states with a "concealed
>> carry" law on the books.  The old west virtue of an armed society is a
polite
>> society.
>
>


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