| ----- Original Message ----- 
From Mike 
Maclean  
To: Larry   Sandi Miller ;Spridget 
Sent: 8/24/03 9:54:48 PM 
Subject: Re: engine health
I will be picking up a steel head from APT tomorrow.  It is costing me 
900 bucks, but 100 of that is for the core that David sold me.  The package 
includes Rimflo valves, double springs, keepers, seals etc.  The valves and 
seats were cut with 3 faces.  Phosphor bronze valve guides reamed to 
critical tolerances with top hat style seals on the intake and 
standard seals on the exhaust. The combustion chambers were ground and 
polished to produce a 9:1 CR.  The block was decked so the pistons were 
within 5 thou of the top of the block at TDC.  David machined the head to 
produce the correct CR.  While he was working on it, he says he got 
confused about what I had asked for and went ahead and ground the ports for 
more 
air flow.  He says I am getting a $1500 head for $900!  WOO HOO!  
Shooting for 90 horses!  That ought to be a kick in the butt of the 
Bugeye!
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 FLSTS
00 F-150
89 Nissan Sentra (Yuck!)
----- Original Message ----- 
From Larry   Sandi 
Miller  
To: Spridget 
Sent: 8/24/03 7:52:29 PM 
Subject: Re: engine health
Having had both, my ass in the seat tells me that $ for $ the aluminum 
head
out performs the steel version.
 
That is, for the price of an aluminum head the large percentage of us 
cannot
build a steel head that will perform better.
 
David Anton might but he would have to throw in his work for free to 
keep
the cost down if he were to sell it.
 
Most of us could not do enough of the work ourself or the quality of 
the
work necessary to make it happen.
 
The aluminum head performs right out of the box.
 
My guess is that if you were to buy the steel head on the open market 
you
will have to pay $1300 to get one that will out perform the aluminum 
head.
 
BTW Cap'n Bob my aluminum (Pierce) head uses the same plug as the 
steel
head.
 
Larry Miller
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From "gerard"  pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  
To: "Robert E. Shlafer"  PilotRob@webtv.net  
Cc: "Robert Duquette"  RobertDuquette@Sympatico.ca  ; 
"Spridgets"
 Spridgets@autox.team.net  
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: engine health
 
 
  Hey Cap'n,
 
  I don't know where you get your numbers from to make this claim, 
but
  I have recently heard from an extremely knowledgeable and well 
known
  source that the aluminum head does NOT flow as good as a stock 
cast
  iron head and that if the extra money spent on the aluminum head
  invested in even mild porting of a stock head with Rimflow 
valves
  would perform much better. I only recently heard this and was
  surprised myself, but the credibility of this individual I think 
is
  without question. If you have some factual data to back up your
  claim, I'd like to hear about it.
 
  Gerard
 
  At 9:35 PM -0400 8/24/03, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
   Hey, Bob....consider.....
   
   That aluminum head is not only
   lighter, it also flows around 30%
   better than stock, runs cooler, uses 12mm
   plugs due to a "centered" plug in the
   combustion chamber (more even burn
   across the piston) and comes with
   hardened seats.
 
 
 
 
 
--- Mike Maclean
--- macleans@earthlink.net 
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