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Re: FW: Re: engine health

To: "Mike Maclean" <macleans@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: FW: Re: engine health
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:30:20 -0700
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
References: <41200381254591420@earthlink.net>
...not wanting to "steal you thunder", I was waiting for you to speak 
up Mike...'-)

Gerard

At 10:12 PM -0700 8/24/03, Mike Maclean wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: Mike
>Maclean 
>
>To: Larry   Sandi Miller ;Spridget
>
>Sent: 8/24/03 9:54:48 PM
>
>Subject: Re: engine health
>
>
>
>
>I will be picking up a steel head from APT tomorrow.  It is costing me
>900 bucks, but 100 of that is for the core that David sold me.  The package
>includes Rimflo valves, double springs, keepers, seals etc.  The valves and
>seats were cut with 3 faces.  Phosphor bronze valve guides reamed to
>critical tolerances with top hat style seals on the intake and
>standard seals on the exhaust. The combustion chambers were ground and
>polished to produce a 9:1 CR.  The block was decked so the pistons were
>within 5 thou of the top of the block at TDC.  David machined the head to
>produce the correct CR.  While he was working on it, he says he got
>confused about what I had asked for and went ahead and ground the 
>ports for more
>air flow.  He says I am getting a $1500 head for $900!  WOO HOO! 
>Shooting for 90 horses!  That ought to be a kick in the butt of the
>Bugeye!
>
>Mike MacLean
>
>60 Sprite
>
>56 BN2
>
>02 FLSTS
>
>00 F-150
>
>89 Nissan Sentra (Yuck!)
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: Larry   Sandi
>Miller 
>
>To: Spridget
>
>Sent: 8/24/03 7:52:29 PM
>
>Subject: Re: engine health
>
>
>
>
>
>Having had both, my ass in the seat tells me that $ for $ the aluminum
>head
>
>out performs the steel version.
>
>
>
>That is, for the price of an aluminum head the large percentage of us
>cannot
>
>build a steel head that will perform better.
>
>
>
>David Anton might but he would have to throw in his work for free to
>keep
>
>the cost down if he were to sell it.
>
>
>
>Most of us could not do enough of the work ourself or the quality of
>the
>
>work necessary to make it happen.
>
>
>
>The aluminum head performs right out of the box.
>
>
>
>My guess is that if you were to buy the steel head on the open market
>you
>
>will have to pay $1300 to get one that will out perform the aluminum
>head.
>
>
>
>BTW Cap'n Bob my aluminum (Pierce) head uses the same plug as the
>steel
>
>head.
>
>
>
>Larry Miller
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "gerard"  pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com 
>
>To: "Robert E. Shlafer"  PilotRob@webtv.net 
>
>Cc: "Robert Duquette"  RobertDuquette@Sympatico.ca  ;
>"Spridgets"
>
>  Spridgets@autox.team.net 
>
>Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:25 PM
>
>Subject: Re: engine health
>
>
>
>
>
>   Hey Cap'n,
>
>
>
>   I don't know where you get your numbers from to make this claim,
>but
>
>   I have recently heard from an extremely knowledgeable and well
>known
>
>   source that the aluminum head does NOT flow as good as a stock
>cast
>
>   iron head and that if the extra money spent on the aluminum head
>
>   invested in even mild porting of a stock head with Rimflow
>valves
>
>   would perform much better. I only recently heard this and was
>
>   surprised myself, but the credibility of this individual I think
>is
>
>   without question. If you have some factual data to back up your
>
>   claim, I'd like to hear about it.
>
>
>
>   Gerard
>
>
>
>   At 9:35 PM -0400 8/24/03, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
>
>    Hey, Bob....consider.....
>
>   
>
>    That aluminum head is not only
>
>    lighter, it also flows around 30%
>
>    better than stock, runs cooler, uses 12mm
>
>    plugs due to a "centered" plug in the
>
>    combustion chamber (more even burn
>
>    across the piston) and comes with
>
>    hardened seats.
>
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>
>--- Mike Maclean
>
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>
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>
>
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>
>
>
>--- Mike Maclean
>
>--- macleans@earthlink.net
>
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