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Re: Concours Question

To: jimjcmo@yahoo.com, 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Concours Question
From: TR250Driver@aol.com
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:10:28 EST
In a message dated 12/21/2005 5:29:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
jimjcmo@yahoo.com writes:

Today, I  tend to avoid Concours displays at all UK Club meetings. The 
majority are  really nothing more (to my mind) than an opportunity for the more 
financially  well-heeled members to display how much money they have spent on 
their cars -  and to hell with everyone else. Is it the same in the  US?




I will comment on this statement.  I too do not want to do not want to  fall 
off a soapbox too far. Still looking for that 6-PACK Chief Judge Too.   Where 
are you Jim when I need you the most?
 
There really are two if not more groups of owners showing Concours  Cars.  
Yes, there are ones that bar no expense, and create over-restored,  museum 
quality, master pieces of fine jewelry as Bill said. However, there  are others 
who 
really understand what a Triumph was and painstakingly restore  them properly 
and in some cases drive the wheels off them while spending  countless hours 
maintaining them to a high standard. I think most of you guys  must know Pat 
Pinkston don't you?  He and his 76 Minosa yellow TR6 fall  into that category.  
You have these two ends of the  spectrum.  In between there are other groups. 
You cannot stereotype all  Concours cars into one group.  
 
I as VTR Chief Judge deal with this by instructing Judges to NOT use  the 
over restored car as the Standard.  The VTR Standard is "How the Car  Appeared 
and Functioned as it left the dealer showroom as a New  Vehicle". This is not 
to 
say that we are going to hammer any so called over  restored cars. They will 
not receive extra bonus points either. We are  allowing all to compete on 
equal ground to the Standard.
 
 I have many very dedicated volunteer field Judges that understand  this 
principle very well and are experts as much as one can be in the  particular 
model 
they are judging.  Someone said they know their car best  and yes I have 11 
Triumphs and I know them inside and out.   But that does not make me an expert 
on every model year of every Triumph. I  am literally learning every day. 
Trouble is I can't remember everything  therefore I will continue to rely on my 
volunteers. 
 
Off the Soapbox for Now,
Darrell
62 TR4, 63 TR3B, 63 TR4, 68 TR250, 70 GT6+, 70 Spitfire MK3, 71 TR6, 76  
Spitfire 1500, 76 VE TR7, 80 TR8, 81 TR7
8 of them are Original Concours Cars, one is Modified  Concours, one is a 
Project and one is purpose built for autocross.  All are  driven as much as 
possible with the use of multiple drivers. None have ever been  accused of 
being 
over restored. They have received many 1st place awards,  many 2nd place 
awards, 
many 3rd place awards and sometimes they get zipped  in Concours competition, 
Rally competition and Autocross. BOS awards at  6-PACK, TRA and VTR.  There I 
Have Said It! 
Merry Christmas Guys   




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