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Re: Pertronix ignitor and flamethrower coil?

To: <gppepoy@cybertrails.com>, "Chris Davies" <fairlady_67@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pertronix ignitor and flamethrower coil?
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 06:33:08 -0500
Guy,

Summit Racing sells them but you can buy a MSD Blaster also for the same
$$$$ just make sure it has the same resistance as MSD makes several models.

Make sure you have the Ignitor II.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Pepoy" <gppepoy@cybertrails.com>
To: "Chris Davies" <fairlady_67@hotmail.com>
Cc: <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>; <ambradley@yahoo.com>;
<doctor_evil@fastmail.ca>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pertronix ignitor and flamethrower coil?


> Greetings,
> I have the Pertronix unit.  Where can I purchase the Flamethrower Coil?
> Many thanks
> Guy
> 67.5 stroker
> Tempe, AZ
>
> Chris Davies wrote:
>
> > I used the Pertronix in my 1600 along with their Flamethrower coil.
Wasn't
> > to sure as to what to do about the resistor also. I made a call to
Pertronix
> > and was told to leave the resistor out of the system. I drove the car
for
> > five months last summer with no ignition problem at all.
> >
> > Chris Davies
> > 67.5 1600
> >
> > >From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> > >To: "Adam Bradley" <ambradley@yahoo.com>,   "Doctor Evil"
> > ><doctor_evil@fastmail.ca>,   <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > >Subject: Re: Pertronix ignitor and flamethrower coil?
> > >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:40:30 -0500
> > >
> > >Adam,
> > >
> > >Pertronix makes a more sophisticated setup for American cars that need
no
> > >resistance but I have the plain old Ignitor and it says the coil must
have
> > >a
> > >MINIMUM of 1.5 Ohms resistance.
> > >
> > >I don't know about the Flame-Thrower II or Ignitor II which you
apparently
> > >have. I didn't think it was made for our cars but I guess it is.
> > >
> > >Sorry to get you excited but I didn't want to see you melt down or get
> > >stuck. Someone in my MG club left off the ballast resistor and he got
> > >stuck.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Adam Bradley" <ambradley@yahoo.com>
> > >To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>; "Doctor Evil"
> > ><doctor_evil@fastmail.ca>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:18 AM
> > >Subject: Re: Pertronix ignitor and flamethrower coil?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hmmm... Now that I've had a chance to read your message and the
> > > > previous reply, I see that Pertronix's website says the following:
> > > >
> > > > 7        Compared to point type systems, develops on average 4 times
> > > > more available energy between 3000 and 5000 RPM and 2 times more
> > > > available plug voltage.
> > > >
> > > > 7        Higher RPM performance is improved when used with new
> > > > Flame-Throwerb II super low resistance (0.6 ohms) 45,000 volt coil,
> > > > however, is compatible with any induction coil.
> > > >
> > > > Does this imply that the Ignitor II can use a non-resistor setup?
> > > >
> > > > --- datsunmike <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > THe Flamethrower coil probably has built in resistance and doesn't
> > > > > need an
> > > > > external ballast resistor. Many coils for newer cars have that
> > > > > feature.
> > > > > However, the Pertronix unit itself needs resistance or else the
> > > > > electronics
> > > > > will burn out. I have one and read that part carefully after it
was
> > > > > brought
> > > > > up at a MG meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > > The stock coil for our cars don't have resistance and you need to
run
> > > > > a
> > > > > ballast resistor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any coil having more than 3 ohms of resistance has a built in
> > > > > resistor.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Doctor Evil" <doctor_evil@fastmail.ca>
> > > > > To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:02 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Pertronix ignitor and flamethrower coil?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's a fact, Jack
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm running this setup in my roadster.  The ballast resistor is
> > > > > > important for the points ignition, but when you go to the
> > > > > electronic
> > > > > > ignition, it's not necessary.  What I did was to remove the
stock
> > > > > > coil and ballast resistor on its bracket (the flamethrower won't
> > > > > fit
> > > > > > in the stock mount anyway), and have one of my buddies who's
> > > > > building
> > > > > > a plane in his basement to fabricate me a custom coil holder
from
> > > > > > aluminum (and a nice stereo mounting plate for the trunk).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > 67 2000
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I read on a Z list that if you install a pertronix ignitor AND
> > > > > > > replace the stock coil with a stronger unit, such as the
> > > > > pertronix
> > > > > > > flamethrower, than you do not need to run the ballast
resistor,
> > > > > > > meaning hotter spark (use larger spark plug gap).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is this true?  Is it as simple as wiring the two sides of the
> > > > > > > ballast resistor together?  Or is this not true for our
> > > > > Roadsters?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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