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RE: Clicking wheels / good news

To: "'Joe Curry'" <spitlist@gte.net>,
Subject: RE: Clicking wheels / good news
From: "Bowen, Patrick A RP2" <PABowen@sar.med.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:49:18 -0400
I guess at that point (when I actually had the problem) it was more of what
I noticed.  Since at that time I had never driven a Spit with a quiet
rearend I did not notice the whining.  BTY my constant noise was not a
clicking but a whining. yet I did hear the clicking under acceleration.  

Once u-joints were all changed (and thanks again Joe for talking me through
it on the phone, last year) I was amazed at how quiet the rear end was.

Patrick Bowen

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist@gte.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:48 AM
To: Bowen, Patrick A RP2
Cc: Douglas Braun & Nadia Papakonstantinou; Barry Schwartz; Jeff McNeal;
spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Clicking wheels / good news


Patrick,
The operative word here is "Dominant".  If the sound is there all the time,
it
would indicate a likely U-Joint problem.  But if it is "Only" there on
acceleration (one clink), deceleration or braking, that in my mind would
eliminate the U-Joints as a source of the problem.

Further.  If you are under hard acceleration, it might keep the U-joint in
an
attitude where the flex is confined and the sound is not there.  BUt as soon
as
you reach a cruising speed and the acceleration pressure is removed from the
u-joint there would most likely be a constant (albeit lower volume) clicking
made as the joint rotates.

But my understanding of the symptom is that there is only a single clink on
acceleration and another one on deceleration (and braking), indicating that
a
fixed rather than rotating part of the suspension is loose.

Regards,
Joe  

"Bowen, Patrick A RP2" wrote:
> 
> I have actually had the experience where the sound was dominant only when
> the car was under acceleration or gas being applied, took my foot off the
> pedal and it shut up. Oh well, I guess the best thing is assume they are
bad
> and change them
> 
> Patrick Bowen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist@gte.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:19 AM
> To: Douglas Braun & Nadia Papakonstantinou
> Cc: Barry Schwartz; Jeff McNeal; spitfires@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Clicking wheels / good news
> 
> My experience with loose U-Joints cups is that the symptom would be
> different.
> Rather than the clink on acceleration or deceleration, you will have a
> constant
> clink every time the U-Joint flexes meaning it would be there all the
time.
> What's more, Replacing U-Joints is hard enough without having to deal with
> locktite or some other foreign material.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Douglas Braun & Nadia Papakonstantinou wrote:
> >
> > Another potential problem is that the U-joint cups can become loose in
> their
> > holes in the yokes.  The metal of the yokes can apparently expand after
> much
> > use.  You can spot this problem because the cups will creep round and
> round,
> > and the top of the cup will be shiny under the circlips where it has
been
> > rubbing against the circlip.
> >
> > The only sure cure is to replace the flange and/or axle shaft.
> > Probably you could replace just the yoke on the axle shaft, but
> > you would need a jumbo press!  Possibly one of those Permatex
> > or Loctite products could fill the gap around the cup...
> >
> > Doug Braun
> > '72 Spit
> >
> > At 06:09 PM 4/6/00 -0700, Barry Schwartz wrote:
> >
> > >Jeff,
> > >While you may have replaced them, or they may have been replaced, if
you
> > >didn't check the end float it may still be your u-joints.  If you have
> > >disregard the latter.

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