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Re: The Roadster Factory demise

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Subject: Re: The Roadster Factory demise
From: "Bob Kramer" <rgk@flash.net>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 11:28:18 -0600
Cc: "George Richardson" <gprtech@frontiernet.net>, "David Massey" <105671.471@compuserve.com>, "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@cs.uofs.edu>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
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I read your message. I started to pull the names off the top and just reply
to the list, but it occurred to me that some are on the digest. My message
was not intended to single anyone out.

Bob Kramer
8006 Bernard Street
Leander, TX 78641
rgk@flash.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
To: Bob Kramer <rgk@flash.net>
Cc: George Richardson <gprtech@frontiernet.net>; David Massey
<105671.471@compuserve.com>; Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu>;
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: The Roadster Factory demise


> Bob,
> If you would READ the messages instead of the subject line you might
> realize that mine was not a "TRF Bashing" message!
>
> Joe
>
>
> Bob Kramer wrote:
> >
> > What are we doing on this list? We have no right to continue this
bashing.
> > Vote with your checkbook, share the horror stories, but don't beat it to
> > death. A newbie coming on this list might very well leave with the
> > impression that TRF is a dishonest operation, because a few horror
stories
> > are being repeated endlessly. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
I
> > might add that we never hear the other sides of these stories. I'm
certain
> > cash flow is an issue, but there are often extenuating circumstances.
TRF
> > has let their enthusiasm get ahead of sound business practices and
inventory
> > control. TRF wants to be everyone's LBC company, and they are suffering
the
> > losses in sales volumes that result from what we might see as poor
> > decisions. When I go to my favorite grocery store, and they have no
milk, I
> > complain and go elsewhere. I return to my favorite store many more
times,
> > but if they are always out of milk, my favorite store changes.
Eventually,
> > management wakes up and smells the roses, when business drops. Some
times
> > they can recover and sometimes they can't. Sears was on the brink not
that
> > long ago, and now I find myself back there again. In TRF's defense, it's
> > harder to smell the roses when your busy trying to survive, and tied up
in a
> > dream. I think they have finally been awakened and are restructuring the
> > dreams.  If dzus' cost $16.95, so be it. Hold them accountable for their
> > screw-ups, but let it go after that. HNY
> >
> > Bob Kramer
> > 8006 Bernard Street
> > Leander, TX 78641
> > rgk@flash.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
> > To: George Richardson <gprtech@frontiernet.net>
> > Cc: David Massey <105671.471@compuserve.com>; Bill Gunshannon
> > <bill@cs.uofs.edu>; <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 9:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: The Roadster Factory demise
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > George Richardson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If TRF goes bankrupt, Charles may have no control over what happens
to
> > the
> > > > tooling.It gets sold by the people liquidating the company.
> > > > I've been involved in a bankruptcy where the tooling was sold as
scrap,
> > even
> > > > though there were offers to buy it.
> > >
> > >
> > > So, maybe the answer is, "If TRF files for Bankruptcy, we should all
> > > pool our resources and buy it issuing shares to the contributors
> > > according to how much they chip in!"  Then we would have to elect a
> > > board of directors, a president and ....  Oh well, it was a thought!
> > >
> > > Happy new year!
> > >
> > > Jo Curry
> > >
> > > --
> > > "If you can't excel with talent, triumph with effort."
> > >  -- Dave Weinbaum in National Enquirer
> > >
>
> --
> "If you can't excel with talent, triumph with effort."
>  -- Dave Weinbaum in National Enquirer
>


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