I recall reading in one of the British vintage sports car magazines that
Standard had acquired the Vanguard engine design under license from
Citroen and that it was a Traction Avant motor. I took a look at the
motor in the Traction Avant that was in the around the World in 80 Days
Rally when it came through here and the motor was totally different than
any TR engine I've seen. Was the writer full of it or is it a different
Citroen that it was derived from.
Doug Hamilton
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:06:25 +1300
From: "David Greed" <greed@wave.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Did TR give or get the "Tractor" motor ?
This thread regarding the Ferguson TEA20 brings back many memories - I
spent
many hours of my youth with my bum firmly planted on the seat of such a
tractor.
It would always start, despite the six volt electrics and was therefore
pressed in to service on frosty mornings when the diesel tractor (at
that
stage a Massey Ferguson 65 - Perkins motor) had other ideas. Any city
folk
who were asked to start the Fergie always got confused until we showed
them
what other uses a gear lever was for - the starter was activated by
moving
the gearlever to where most modern cars have fifth gear (ie. opposite
reverse). It was therefore impossible to start the tractor "in gear"
which
was a great safety feature. There many equally unsafe features, not
least of
which were the brakes - very marginal.
I believe that Harry Ferguson revolutionised the tractor by fitting
three
point hydraulics to this model, but the downside of this was that the
(already light) tractor became very light in the nose when any sort of
load
was carried out the back - this very nearly lead to my demise when the
tractor effectively lost steering when going along a rather steep hill.
Thankfully I lived to tell the tale...
Now as to the origins of the 4 cylinder wet-sleeve TR engine - I heard
that
the original design came from Citrokn (another marque dear to my heart)
and
that accounted for why a Ferguson spanner would fit a Ferguson tractor
and
nothing else and no other spanner (except one with sliding jaws) could
be
used on a Ferguson.
Is this correct?
David Greed
1974 Stag Man O/D
1979 2500S Man O/D
1992 Citrokn BX TZD
Email: Home: greed@wave.co.nz
Work: david.greed@telecom.co.nz
Webpages: http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/greed
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