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Re: The 'New' G Stock?

To: "Joe Goeke" <buttheat@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: The 'New' G Stock?
From: Andrew_Bettencourt@kingston.com
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:27:08 -0700

I'm not saying that the Type R isn't one of the top 2 or 3 cars in the class,
because it is <watch out for the Beretta's : )>.  As far as killing DS,
Nationals should shed a little more light on where they should/shouldn't go.

You can only get a "perceived" top car BEFORE the data is in!  As soon as the
Type R went to GS, everyone flew off the handle.  Yes there was some timing
issues (lets not go into that again) but the majority of the racers thought it
simply wasn't a GS car.  I submit that it may fit in the 'new GS', or to phrase
it better, how GS has evolved.

You have driven a car that is proof of this.  The Z3 2.8 Coupe made a dominant
showing at ONE race in the beginning of the year and it got everyone in a tizzy.
The "perceived" car for AS by May.  Cries of Super Stock were heard from Maine
to San Diego.  The results have shown that the car is competitive and properly
classed.

The bottom line is that the 1998 Nationals didn't show the Type R as a dominant
car.  Take away the North course (wet) and you get a pretty good mix for raw
times:  South Course:

1.  Rohn  52.356  F-body
2.  Endicott   52.389 Type R
3.  Allen      52.473  Eclipse

If the 99 Nationals show it crushing similar cars with similar drivers, maybe a
change is in order.

AB





Oh please!!!!!  Just look at the data before making generalization
statements like "perceived" top car.  Look at the GS times compared to the
other classes this year, and then the last couple of years.  The GS winning
times are WAY up.  GS use to run about 0.5 behind DS on the average.  It now
kills DS.  Same great drivers in DS.  Now with that look at how the top
Talon driver from last year is doing this year in other classes/cars.
Another data point, Ron and I are pretty matched drivers (the data for the
last couple of years will show this) and with Ron in the Type R has
decimated most of GS this year and every pax standing.  Now granted Ron is
driving well, but I've also driven the Type R and a Talon, only once for
both, and in both those cases, I decimated the competition also.  See any
trend here!  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see just how fast the
Talon and Type R really are compared to the rest of the GS cars, let alone
DS cars.
---JCG
----- Original Message -----
From: <Andrew_Bettencourt@kingston.com>
To: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: The 'New' G Stock?


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> Holy crap!  Somebody who doesn't think GS is broken!  Hail the SEB!
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> I've been saying this for a while now, the Type R is a self-fulfilling
prophesy.
> Most of the top drivers migrated to them because they *perceived* them to
be the
> top car.  Top drivers + competitive car = Many wins.
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> AB
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> I agree, though - leave things as they are and put the Celica in there.
> Don't much with what is working...
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> Kevin McCormick
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