Could it be that the Toyota's lack of a driveshaft, being mid-engine
and rear drive, causes significantly less drivetrain loss and explains some
of the difference?
John Moore
1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R (STS)
1993 Toyota MR2 NA (CS)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scot Zediker [SMTP:roadsterboy@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:25 PM
> To: Richard Williams; autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Re-class a Miata for +15hp!!!!!!!! Give me a break.
>
> Did you consider the possibility that Toyota might have sent SCC a ringer
> (although a few have said that Mazda uses small horses)?
>
> Scot
> '91 CS Miata
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Williams <richw1@mediaone.net>
> To: <autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Re-class a Miata for +15hp!!!!!!!! Give me a break.
>
>
> > Well than you surely forgot that the 1999 Miata and the 2000 MR2 Spyder
> were
> > put on the dyno and the MR2 had a good bit more power. Even though the
> two
> > cars are advertised to have the same HP the MR2 Spyder dyno'ed at 13 hp
> and
> > 7 lb-ft of torque higher than the Miata. The MR2 Spyder dyno'ed at 125
> hp
> > and 113 lb-ft of torque, the Miata came up with 112 hp and 106 lb-ft of
> > torque. Even if you add an advertised 15 hp, which would equal
> > approximately 12 hp to the rear wheels (adjusting for drivetrain
> losses),
> > you would just now equal the power of the MR2 Spyder. The MR2 also
> reached
> > max torque 1100 rpm's earlier. Also, do not forget the MR2 Spyder is
> > approximately 104 lbs lighter than the Miata. The MR2 Spyder came in at
> > 2,195 lbs and the Miata came in at 2,299 lbs. I am not saying that the
> MR2
> > Spyder will be an overdog but it will surely be a strong contender with
> the
> > 2000 and 2001 Miata. This is simply the facts, nothing more, nothing
> less.
> >
> > I have said my piece and will now duck, as the Miata people will be
> heaving
> > objects in my direction.
> >
> > Richard Williams
> > 2000 Absolutely Red MR2 Spyder
> > 2000 Carbon Blue Celica GT
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Bernard" <solo-2@juno.com>
> > To: <JoeT@ryersoncoil.com>
> > Cc: <solo-2@juno.com>; <athomps9@visteon.com>; <autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re-class a Miata for +15hp!!!!!!!! Give me a break.
> >
> >
> > > > Are we forgetting that the new MR2 is in BS as of the latest Fast
> > > > track update? I think that will level the playing field in BS if
> not
> > > > upset it some.
> > >
> > > No I didn't forget about it but the new Miata will have more
> > > HP (uncertain about torque) than even the new MR Spyder!
> > > Older Miatas will have to watch out I guess. :)
> > >
> > > Steve Bernard
> > > Red '99 Miata (B-Stock)
> > > NER Region (Novice Class)
> > > mailto:Solo-2@juno.com
> >
> >
>
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