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hassled by The Man (was Re: Maps and window decals)

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Subject: hassled by The Man (was Re: Maps and window decals)
From: NASA-VA Operations Director Jon Felton <nasa-va@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:22:35 -0400
Here's one for you: Picture a train of about 4-5  
cars on a 4-lane divided highway connecting 
a state capital city to a somewhat smaller city 
bordering the southern state.  The train of cars 
is traveling above the speed limit, but with no 
other traffic around it isn't unsafe.  The cars are 
approximately 250 feet apart in the train.  Three of 
the cars are totally stock sedans or SUV's, the other 
two are street legal track/solo prepared Sentra 
SE-R's (lowered, louder exhausts, wheels, 
sponsor stickers, numbers, rollcages, etc).  

This is last Friday evening at 6:30 pm, still 
with plenty of daylight left.  A local cop goes by 
in the opposite direction, across a grassy median.  
Checking the side mirror reveals no brake lights or 
blue lights so the train of cars continues at said 
speed - still above the speed limit but not 
excessively so.  Two or three minutes later all drivers 
in the train see rapidly approaching flashing lights in 
their side mirrors and get into the slow lane to let the 
approaching vehicle pass.  

The officer comes up alongside the train and slows 
beside the second car in line, which JUST so happens 
to be one of the aforementioned SE-R's.  He motions for 
the driver to pull over and is immediately acknowleged.  

One car back, the other SE-R driver realizes 
that traffic will be slowing and tries to get 
back into the fast lane to pass (like the 
other cars in the train are doing).  He is 
immediately blocked and waved over by 
the officer.  Once pulled over, both SE-R 
drivers are informed that they were speeding - 
71 mph in a 55 mph zone.  

The SE-R drivers are not "kids".  Furthermore, 
they are dressed in khakis and oxford shirts 
and are cleanly shaven with short hair and no other 
indicators of suspicion.  They speak in complete 
gramatically correct sentences and use bigger 
words conversationally than the arresting officer.  
Yet they are polite to the officer because they have 
in fact been caught breaking the law.  

They try to calmly and politely explain that they are 
on their way to a racetrack to take part in a high 
performance driving school, hence their choice of 
vehicles.  They then jokingly invite the officer down 
to the event to chase them around the track for a 
while.  He responds jokingly; the relationship between 
officer and driver is understood to be mutual respect.  

However, the SE-R drivers still each get tickets for 
71/55 and none of the other cars in the train ever got 
pulled over.  

Furthermore, the arresting officer must have done 100+ 
miles per hour to catch up to the train of cars (based 
on the several minute period after radar lock).  That 
is logically more unsafe than any street car doing 71 
because it is still a public road.  

Now tell me there isn't prejudice on the part of the 
law enforcement community!  These drivers essentially 
got $78 tickets because they weren't driving Tauruses 
or Cherokees.  The entire train of cars was breaking the 
law but only the racey-looking cars got tickets.  

The SE-R pilots are feeling unfairly selected and are 
contemplating legal action instead of simply paying their 
tickets in advance.   The fact that it will cost more money 
to go to court and argue the case than it would cost to 
simply pay the tickets is not a concern.  

Thoughts on this are welcomed but please note that 
I'm on digest mode.

Jon Felton
#37 STS/DSP '91 Nissan Sentra SE-R
1.877. 61-WHEEL / http://www.rosenautosport.com
http://www.nasaracing.net next autox 7/23 @ VMP



Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:48:11 -0500
From: jon e prevo <tcbracer@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Maps and window decals

By taking exception can we assume that it is your opinion that the
majority of traffic cops don't abuse the system?  If so, then just
consider yourself part of the problem.  I have found in situation after
situation that patrolmen are encouraged to find any defensible excuse to
ticket and/or unnecessarily subjugate any motorist who seems vulnerable. 
Until police departments stop basing their success on ticket and
conviction quotas, all you self-righteous cops out there only make the
problem worse by ignoring it and refusing to acknowledge it.  Cops pick
on kids with hotrods because they don't expect any intelligent defense. 
They pick on hippies like myself for the same reason, under the guise of
"he looks suspicious," and because they equate long hair, old cars and
work clothes with crime and stupidity.  Cops stay away from dignified
yuppy types because they smell too much like legal defense.


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