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I agree with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you do
the car will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of
oil under the car. Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your
yellow metal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be very happy. I
recommend RedLine MTL or MT90.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrote:
> Never bother about the quantity, just fill right up until the oil
> overflows the filler plug hole, both overdrive and gearbox if they are
> separate.
> When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD parts)
> do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil, special oil e.g Redline or
> 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
> Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:
>
> That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems like they got the whole thing int=
o a
> muddle on Day One and never really recovered.
>
> Makes trial and error, one of my usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in
> the circs.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Keith Taylor
> *Sent:* 25 May 2015 03:20
> *To:* healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume
>
>
>
> My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has an "ERRATUM ' sticker on the
> inside cover stating :-
>
>
>
> Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity
>
>
>
> The combined capacity of the Gearbox and
> overdrive is
>
> 5 1/2 Imp. pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp
> pints as stated
>
> After draining, 1/4 pint of oil will remain
> in the overdrive
>
> hydraulic system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints
> will be required
>
> for refilling.
>
>
>
> Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954
>
>
>
> So when filling from rebuild add the extra 1/4 pint .... 5 3/4 pints
>
>
>
> Later editions may have carried the correction and side and top
> shift gearboxes may vary
>
>
>
> Keith Taylor
>
> southern Highlands OZ
>
>
>
> On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
>
>
> Well that=E2=80=99s interesting as I will be buying the oil for the BN3=
=E2=80=99s gearbox
> this week. It is a 100S gearbox with a 22% OD that has been completely
> rebuilt and apart from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s complete=
ly empty.
>
>
>
> My 1968 BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in September
> 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitt=
ed
> with an OD is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I states =
the
> same for a centre-shift box as well. So I will be buying a 4 litre
> container and store what=E2=80=99s left over for the inevitable leaks.
>
>
>
> Talking about leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler SP250
> over the weekend and he made mention that all things over 50 or 60 years =
of
> age are bound to leak.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains
>
> Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Bo=
b
> Spidell
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume
>
>
>
> Offhand, I'd believe the workshop manual first. If you're doing a
> drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure how much residual oil is left so
> you have to go by the dipstick anyway.
>
> Bob
>
> On 5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 1) My car=E2=80=99s Driver=E2=80=99s Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) te=
lls me that:
>
> my MkII BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US pts)
>
> its overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)
>
>
>
> 2) My BMC Workshop Manual (AKD 1179D) tells me that:
>
> gearbox 4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)
>
> Total gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30 US pts)
>
>
>
> 3) My Haynes manual goes for:
>
> Standard box:- 5 imp pts
>
> With overdrive:- 6.25 pts
>
>
>
> 4) My Autopress manual (Kenneth Ball) goes for:
>
> Standard box:- 5 imp pts
>
> With overdrive:- 6.25 pts
>
>
>
> ie only Haynes and Autopress agree.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve had this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve never noti=
ced these
> discrepancies! I seem to have survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=
=80=99d bet
> that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.
>
>
>
> Any ideas? I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
> (And I didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I agr=
ee with Kees--you really cannot overfill the box and even if you do the car=
will leak oil anyway so at worst you will have a larger puddle of oil unde=
r the car.=C2=A0 Do be sure to use an oil with a GL4 rating or your yellow =
metal parts (synchro rings, etc) will not be very happy.=C2=A0 I recommend =
RedLine MTL or MT90.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Mi=
chael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Oudesluys <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; target=3D"_blank">coudesluijs@chello.n=
l</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
<div>Never bother about the quantity, just
fill right up until the oil overflows the filler plug hole, both
overdrive and gearbox if they are separate. <br>
When brass parts are used (e.g. synchro rings, selector forks, OD
parts) do not use EP "gearbox oil". Use straight oil, speci=
al oil
e.g Redline or 20W50 engine oil to save these parts in the box.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
Simon Lachlan schreef op 25-5-2015 om 11:47:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
=20
<div><span class=3D"">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>That=E2=80=99s very interesting. Seems=
like
they got the whole thing into a muddle on Day One and never
really recovered.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Makes trial and error, one of my
usual fallbacks, seem quite sensible in the circs.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=C2=A0</span></p>
</span><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys
[<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keit=
h
Taylor<span class=3D""><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2015 03:20<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys<br>
</span></span></p><div><div class=3D"h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</div></div><p></p>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My original BN1 1954 Service Manual has
an=C2=A0 "ERRATUM=C2=A0' =C2=A0sticker on the inside=
cover stating :-</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0
Gearbox/overdrive Oil Capacity </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0The
combined capacity of the Gearbox and overdrive is</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A05 1/2 Imp.
pints (dry) and not 4 1/2 Imp pints as stated=C2=A0 </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0After
draining,=C2=A0=C2=A01/4 pint of oil will remain in the overd=
rive</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 hydraulic
system, therefore ,only 5 1/2 pints will be required</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 for
refilling.=C2=A0 </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0
Pubs. 996B and 997A December 1954</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So when filling from=C2=A0rebuild add th=
e
extra 1/4 pint=C2=A0 ....=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 3/4 pints</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Later editions=C2=A0may have carried the
correction=C2=A0 and=C2=A0side and top shift=C2=A0gearboxes m=
ay vary</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Keith Taylor</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">southern Highlands OZ</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 25 May 2015 at 07:54, Patrick &
Caroline Quinn <<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>>
wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Greetings</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Well that=E2=80=
=99s
interesting as I will be buying the oil for the
BN3=E2=80=99s gearbox this week. It is a 100S gearbox w=
ith a
22% OD that has been completely rebuilt and apart
from the oil used in the assembly it=E2=80=99s complete=
ly
empty.</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My 1968 BMC
Workshop Manual (AKD 1179H) that I bought new in
September 1974 for $7.00 states that the oil
capacity for a side-shift gearbox fitted with an OD
is 6 =C2=BC imp pints, 7.5 US pints and 3.55 litres. I
states the same for a centre-shift box as well. So I
will be buying a 4 litre container and store what=E2=80=
=99s
left over for the inevitable leaks.</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Talking about
leaks I was watching a Jay Leno video of his Daimler
SP250 over the weekend and he made mention that all
things over 50 or 60 years of age are bound to leak.</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Patrick Quinn</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Blue Mountains<=
/span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Australia</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</s=
pan></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bou=
nces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 May 2015 12:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil volume</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-AU"></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Offhand, I&=
#39;d
believe the workshop manual first.=C2=A0 If you'=
;re
doing a drain-and-fill, you don't know for sure
how much residual oil is left so you have to go
by the dipstick anyway.<br>
<br>
Bob</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">On
5/24/2015 6:32 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:</span></p=
>
</div>
<blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hi,</span=
></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">1)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My car=E2=80=99s Driver=
=E2=80=99s
Handbook page 7, (AKD 3915A) tells me that:</span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">my MkII
BT7=E2=80=99s gearbox takes 5.75 imp pts (6.90 US=
pts)
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">its
overdrive takes 1.33 imp pts (1.75 US pts)</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">2)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My BMC Workshop Manual
(AKD 1179D) tells me that:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">gearbox=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0
4.0 imp pts (4.80 US pts)</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Total
gearbox, overdrive fitted, 5.25 imp pts (6.30
US pts)</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">3)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Haynes manual goes
for:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard
box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With
overdrive:- 6.25 pts=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">4)</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU"=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span lang=3D"EN-AU">My Autopress manual
(Kenneth Ball) goes for:</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Standard
box:- 5 imp pts</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">With
overdrive:- 6.25 pts</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">ie only
Haynes and Autopress agree.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">I=E2=80=
=99ve had
this Healey for +/- 20 years and I=E2=80=99ve nev=
er
noticed these discrepancies! I seem to have
survived by using the dip stick, but I=E2=80=99d =
bet
that I=E2=80=99ve overfilled more than once.</spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Any ideas=
?
I don=E2=80=99t recall this coming up before.....=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Thanks,</=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Simon</sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">(And I
didn=E2=80=99t mention Redline once!)</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</s=
pan></p>
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