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Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 14:53:31 -0800
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Does this conversion retain the BN1/2's mechanical clutch?

On 1/6/2019 1:01 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:
> Regarding lightening flywheels on a BN2, the best solutions I've heard 
> of comes from Bruce Phillips at "Healey Surgeons" in Maryland, and is 
> something he did on his BN2 decades ago with great success.  
> Substitute the stock 100 flywheel for one from a BJ8... This 
> accomplishes several things, first, it greatly reduces the weight 
> without having to compromise an original flywheel (plus it's an 
> original Austin Healey part), and secondly allows the use of the 
> superior BJ8 diaphragm clutch.  Bruce and others who've tried this 
> swear by the conversion.
>
> Supposedly, it does not work too well with a BN1 transmission since 
> according to Bruce, the setup requires that the BN1 transmission bell 
> housing be modified, i.e., material ground away for clearance?  I have 
> not been able confirm this, but fellow Concours member and performance 
> expert John Hodgman told me he didn't think there would be a problem, 
> and was investigating whether or not it could work on his BN1.
>
> Comments?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:13 PM <glemon@neb.rr.com 
>
>     I had my flywheel lightened by a local machine shop.  It was done
>     in conjunction with an engine rebuild to M spec, so it was hard to
>     evaluate the effect on performance.  However I can say there were
>     no I'll effects as far as idle or clutch/take off operation with
>     the lightened flywheel.
>
>     Greg Lemon
>     Former BN1 owner
>
>     wrote:
>     > I have a lightened flywheel in my BN1 (26 pounds as opposed to
>     42) and I've used it for over 13 years with no known ill effects.
>     The engine has been out for an unrelated failure and the crank
>     checked out crack free. I use the car for highway cruising and
>     around town and I don't spend much time above about 3200 RPM. I
>     have Mike Lempert's 3.54:1 gears (hypoid final drive) and the 28%
>     overdrive which gives an 80 MPH cruise at around that RPM. No land
>     speed records, but no speeding tickets either...
>     >
>     > Bill Lawrence
>     > BN1 #554
>     > ________________________________
>     > From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>     > Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 1:03 AM
>     > To: Charlie Schott
>     > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel
>     >
>     > Read this first
>     >
>     
> http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2017/01/03/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/
>     >
>

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    <p>Does this conversion retain the BN1/2's mechanical clutch?</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/6/2019 1:01 PM, Curtis Arndt
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Regarding lightening flywheels on a BN2, the best 
        solutions I've heard of comes from Bruce Phillips at "Healey
        Surgeons" in Maryland, and is something he did on his BN2
        decades ago with great success.  Substitute the stock 100
        flywheel for one from a BJ8... This accomplishes several things,
        first, it greatly reduces the weight without having to
        compromise an original flywheel (plus it's an original Austin
        Healey part), and secondly allows the use of the superior BJ8
        diaphragm clutch.  Bruce and others who've tried this swear by
        the conversion.  
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Supposedly, it does not work too well with a BN1
          transmission since according to Bruce, the setup requires that
          the BN1 transmission bell housing be modified, i.e., material
          ground away for clearance?  I have not been able confirm this,
          but fellow Concours member and performance expert John Hodgman
          told me he didn't think there would be a problem, and was
          investigating whether or not it could work on his BN1. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Comments?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Curt</div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:13 PM &lt;<a
            href="mailto:glemon@neb.rr.com"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">glemon@neb.rr.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
          had my flywheel lightened by a local machine shop.  It was
          done in conjunction with an engine rebuild to M spec, so it
          was hard to evaluate the effect on performance.  However I can
          say there were no I'll effects as far as idle or clutch/take
          off operation with the lightened flywheel.<br>
          <br>
          Greg Lemon<br>
          Former BN1 owner<br>
          <br>
          ---- WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com";
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt;
          wrote: <br>
          &gt; I have a lightened flywheel in my BN1 (26 pounds as
          opposed to 42) and I've used it for over 13 years with no
          known ill effects. The engine has been out for an unrelated
          failure and the crank checked out crack free. I use the car
          for highway cruising and around town and I don't spend much
          time above about 3200 RPM. I have Mike Lempert's 3.54:1 gears
          (hypoid final drive) and the 28% overdrive which gives an 80
          MPH cruise at around that RPM. No land speed records, but no
          speeding tickets either...<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Bill Lawrence<br>
          &gt; BN1 #554<br>
          &gt; ________________________________<br>
          &gt; From: Healeys &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          on behalf of Michael Salter &lt;<a
            href="mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
          &gt; Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 1:03 AM<br>
          &gt; To: Charlie Schott<br>
          &gt; Cc: <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
          &gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightweight Flywheel<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; Read this first<br>
          &gt; <a
href="http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2017/01/03/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/";
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2017/01/03/austin-healey-100-crank-failures/</a><br>
          &gt; <br>
          <br>
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