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It pretty well was.
Jean
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Subject: RE: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
It looks like the entire town is a mine!
John
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jean Car=
on
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 12:57 PM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
There is a small city in Quebec called Asbestos and they used to have an op=
en mine there, not closed. You can see it on Google map, it is located sout=
h east of Montreal.
Jean
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
Steve McQueen (the actor) died of mesothelioma. Urban legend says he contra=
cted it from working in a brake shop--Healey content: I believe he campaign=
ed a Sprite for a while--but it's more likely he got it in the Navy. True t=
o character, he was a 'bad boy' and for punishment was assigned to clean up=
parts of the ships that were insulated with asbestos. It wasn't an intenti=
onal death sentence; it was before the dangers of asbestos were widely know=
n.
I caught a news item years ago about a city in Russia that got its entire r=
evenue from a nearby asbestos mine. The city is mostly abandoned now, for g=
ood reason, but a few stragglers stuck aroun. One was an octogenarian who h=
ad worked in the mine most of his life but never got sick from it. Do they =
have lotteries in Russia? If so, he should buy a ticket.
wrote:
I believe it is a bit more than just =93dust=94 as if you were cutting it. =
Asbestos is fiberous and the fibres are composed of microscopic components=
that will shed with any abrasion, even simple handling. The microscopic f=
ibrils become airborne and are easily inhaled. They can also adhere to you=
r skin and clothing and be transferred later, after the job is finished. I=
am no expert, but suspect a short, once-in-a-lifetime exposure are probabl=
y not a risk, but why take even a small risk when exposure is easily preven=
ted.
What worries me is when I look back to when I was a kid working in a gas st=
ation in the 60s and when the mechanics did a brake job, the first thing th=
ey did after removing the brake drums was take an air hose and blow the bra=
ke dust off the shoes and backing plate etc. Of course brake material had =
asbestos fibres in it back then and these clouds of black asbestos-filled d=
ust would fill the shop for us all to enjoy.
Cheers, Mirek
team.net> On Behalf Of Jean Caron
Sent: January 14, 2021 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
I have always been told that it is the dust of asbestos that is dangerous, =
not the board itself. I recall many years ago helping a friend with these o=
n his Austin-Healey and he was totally afraid of even removing these panels=
, he was wearing a mask, and then a shield and gloves, that=92s even before=
they had these =93hazmat=94 suits. Meanwhile he smoked a pack to a pack an=
d half of cigarettes daily which eventually and unfortunately took his life=
.
Jean
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Sent: January 14, 2021 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
Thank you to everyone regarding the sheet.
I gave it a gentle pry, per Perry's advice, and then one rather less gentle
It just popped off. Intact and without cracking or breaking.
I wonder if it is asbestos. It looked to be in really good condition, but i=
t
was there when I bought the car back in '96.
Anyhow, I was able to easily put the slide's 3 T-nuts in and reinstall the
sheet. All suitably masked of course.
Simon
-----Original Message-----
Sent: 11 January 2021 19:11
com>
Subject: asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
Simon
Notice the square blocks attached to the big sheet. They have been known to
bond themselves to the bottom of the floor pan. Gentle pry them loose.
Perry
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It pretty well was.</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean</p>
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<b>Sent: </b>January 15, 2021 12:27 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com";>'Jea=
n Caron'</a>;
<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>'Bob Spidell'</a>; <a href=3D"mailt=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">It look=
s like the entire town is a mine!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">John<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
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bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean Caron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 14, 2021 12:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net=
<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There is a small city in Quebec called Asbestos and =
they used to have an open mine there, not closed. You can see it on Google =
map, it is located south east of Montreal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean<o:p></o:p></p>
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>Bob Spidell</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>January 14, 2021 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net=
</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet<o:p></o:p=
></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Steve McQueen (the ac=
tor) died of mesothelioma. Urban legend says he contracted it from working =
in a brake shop--Healey content: I believe he campaigned a Sprite for a whi=
le--but it's more likely he got it in
the Navy. True to character, he was a 'bad boy' and for punishment was ass=
igned to clean up parts of the ships that were insulated with asbestos. It =
wasn't an intentional death sentence; it was before the dangers of asbestos=
were widely known.<br>
<br>
I caught a news item years ago about a city in Russia that got its entire r=
evenue from a nearby asbestos mine. The city is mostly abandoned now, for g=
ood reason, but a few stragglers stuck aroun. One was an octogenarian who h=
ad worked in the mine most of his
life but never got sick from it. Do they have lotteries in Russia? If so, =
he should buy a ticket.<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 1/14/2021 8:42 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sy=
mpatico.ca">
m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I believe it is a bit more than just =93dust=94 as i=
f you were cutting it. Asbestos is fiberous and the fibres are compos=
ed of microscopic components that will shed with any abrasion, even simple =
handling. The microscopic fibrils become airborne
and are easily inhaled. They can also adhere to your skin and clothi=
ng and be transferred later, after the job is finished. I am no exper=
t, but suspect a short, once-in-a-lifetime exposure are probably not a risk=
, but why take even a small risk when exposure
is easily prevented.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What worries me is when I look back to when I was a =
kid working in a gas station in the 60s and when the mechanics did a brake =
job, the first thing they did after removing the brake drums was take an ai=
r hose and blow the brake dust off
the shoes and backing plate etc. Of course brake material had asbest=
os fibres in it back then and these clouds of black asbestos-filled dust wo=
uld fill the shop for us all to enjoy.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers, Mirek<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox=
team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean Caron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> January 14, 2021 11:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachl=
an@alexarevel.plus.com</a>; 'Perry Small'
<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";><healeyguy@aol.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet</span><o:=
p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have always been told that it is the dust of asbes=
tos that is dangerous, not the board itself. I recall many years ago helpin=
g a friend with these on his Austin-Healey and he was totally afraid of eve=
n removing these panels, he was wearing
a mask, and then a shield and gloves, that=92s even before they had these =
=93hazmat=94 suits. Meanwhile he smoked a pack to a pack and half of cigare=
ttes daily which eventually and unfortunately took his life.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean <o:p></o:p></p>
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vel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>January 14, 2021 8:47 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>'Perry Small'</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net=
</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thank you to everyone=
regarding the sheet.
<br>
I gave it a gentle pry, per Perry's advice, and then one rather less gentle=
<br>
It just popped off. Intact and without cracking or breaking. <br>
I wonder if it is asbestos. It looked to be in really good condition, but i=
t<br>
was there when I bought the car back in '96.<br>
Anyhow, I was able to easily put the slide's 3 T-nuts in and reinstall the<=
br>
sheet. All suitably masked of course.<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Perry Small <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>healeyguy@aol.co=
m</a>> <br>
Sent: 11 January 2021 19:11<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alex=
arevel.plus.com</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br=
>
Subject: asbestos lookalike insulation sheet<br>
<br>
Simon<br>
Notice the square blocks attached to the big sheet. They have been known to=
<br>
bond themselves to the bottom of the floor pan. Gentle pry them loose. <br>
Perry<o:p></o:p></p>
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