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Re: Slave Cylinder placement (was: tr6 clutch low grab)

To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Slave Cylinder placement (was: tr6 clutch low grab)
From: levilevi@home.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:48:13 -0600
Cc: Bud Rolofson <Bud_Rolofson@nps.gov>, econrad <econrad@teal.csn.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net, sanborn@net1plus.com, CarlSereda@aol.com
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References: <002E9BB1.1235@nps.gov> <379672A9.68547C0E@erols.com>
My Bentley and Haynes manuals for the TR6 show it in front of the flange
plate (between the engine and tranny).  Both my TR6's have it in front
of the flange plate and they shift just fine.  I wonder why the 3 is
different?

Bud
71TR6 CC57365
71TR6 CC65446
66TR4A CTC57806

Fred Thomas wrote:
> 
> The slave cyclinder on my "3' is ="BEHIND"= the flange plate, or the bolts go 
>thru
> the plate & then into the slave cyc.
> 
> Bud Rolofson wrote:
> 
> > Eric,
> >
> > I used the Bentley manual when placing the slave cylinder through the flange
> > attached to the transmission.  It shows the slave cylinder with its bolt 
>holes
> > behind the flange (in other words, it shows the slave cylinder as having 
>been
> > put through the flange hole from the rear of the car).
> >
> > >>>>That is correct.
> >
> > Based on several comments from listers, I have given up my thoughts that
> > this might simply be a system bleeding problem.
> >
> > >>>>Don't give up on that idea yet.  If you bleed the slave cylinder when 
>it is
> > mounted it can hold a tiny bit of air in the part of the cylinder that is 
>above
> > the bleed screw.  Unbolt the the slave cylinder and bleed it so that the 
>bleed
> > screw is at the VERY top.  I think I did this by loosening the bottom bolt 
>and
> > taking out the top bolt so I could turn it.  A small bit of air CAN make a
> > difference.
> >
> > Several of you havementioned that the slave cylinder's bolt plate should 
>sit in
> > front of the transmission flange.
> >
> > >>>>That is correct.
> >
> > Others have mentioned an adjustable slave cylinder push rod that should 
>solve
> > the problem.
> >
> > >>>>TR6's don't come with them but I've seen one made that works like the 
>ones
> > on earlier TRs.  You cut the rod off the slave rod and drill and tap hole 
>in the
> > remaining U-shaped piece.  Use a long grade 8 bolt (I forget the length but
> > you'll have to go to a fastener store to get a long enough one, approx. 6-8
> > inchs) for the rod and bolt it to the U-shaped piece and you have an 
>adjustable
> > slave rod.  You can also add a spring to keep the TOB from the clutch to 
>add to
> > it's longevity and/or don't always sit with the clutch engaged at stop 
>lights
> > (cause you're spinning the TOB).  Put it in neutral.
> >
> > 2) If the slave cylinder is attached with it's bolt plate in front of the
> > transmission flange, the push rod doesn't seem to want to meet up the clutch
> > throw lever.  Bentley's shows the slave cylinder bolt plate toward the rear 
>of
> > the car, but Moss shows it toward the front.
> >
> > >>>>The bolt plate goes between the engine and the tranny.
> >
> > 3) I don't seem to have any adjustment at the clutch pedal itself.  After
> > rebuilding the clutch master cylinder, I also know that there is no
> > adjustment at the pedal push rod that goes into the clutch master cylinder.
> >
> > >>>>Clutches are basically non-adjustable.
> >
> > 4) All the manuals state in bold letters that the slave cylinder should be
> > attached to the clutch throw lever in the middle hole.  This I have done.
> >
> > >>>>Middle hole is for TR6's.  I think Saloons use the top hole and the 
>bottom
> > hole is for Stag's, but I could have those reversed.
> >
> > Bud
> > 71TR6 CC57365
> > 71TR6 CC65446
> > TR4A CTC57806
> > .

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