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Re: The Philosophy of Originality

To: Fred Thomas <vafred@erols.com>
Subject: Re: The Philosophy of Originality
From: Thomas Fansher <tfansher@bitstorm.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:41:25 -0500
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
References: <NDBBJGOAMKLGIEPLABFCMEKACEAA.75trsix@snet.net> <002801bf73fe$0d3aada0$afeaa4d8@vafred>
Anyone out there named Mac who is offended by there "used parts 
establishment" being called a Junk Yard?   :^)

Tom
DeBary, FL  with somewhat of a junk yard in my back yard, too :^)


Fred Thomas wrote:
> 
> Phil, I have a total of 8 cars, all restored to original factory design,
> this is just me, I like originality, but, I'm just as happy seeing a T/R 3
> with any type wheels, any color paint, and as much add ons as the owner
> wishes, it's his/her (L.G. will not call me down) car anyway they want to
> restore it, this is also true when you attend a show, concours, participants
> choice, dailey driver, they are all still ="Triumphs"=, they are all still
> the way the owner wanted to spend his money on his car, and it sure looks
> better than the rusted hulk sitting in Macs Junk Yard waiting for
> extinction. Now of course this is just my .002. "FT"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Danielson <75trsix@snet.net>
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:50 PM
> Subject: RE: The Philosophy of Originality
> 
> >
> > I'm not going to respond, I'm not going to respond, I'm not going to
> > respond, I'm not going to respond................ keep repeating it Bob.
> >
> > Bob Danielson
> > 1975 TR6 Status at
> > http://pages.cthome.net/BobD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-triumphs@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-triumphs@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Philip Haldeman
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:04 PM
> > To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: The Philosophy of Originality
> >
> >
> >
> > Since buying my '72 TR6 many months ago, I've kept (and am planning to
> keep)
> > it as original-looking as possible---reflector stripes (American, of
> course)
> > on the new top, green radiator hose, original-size tires (Vredestein
> > 185/80s), black-spoked slotted steering wheel to match the '72 instrument
> > bezels (I'm refinishing *in black* a late-model 14.5" because I need the
> > extra leg room).  Why not bigger tires?  Why not racing stripes (some
> > dealers did put them on)?  Why not a chrome valve cover?  Why not
> Panasport
> > wheels, etc?
> >
> > Well, my feeling is that at a certain point the car is no longer a
> "genuine"
> > '72 TR6.  Last week, I saw a '52 Plymouth.  It looked quite original and
> > very pleasing in its navy blue color.  But it had "mag" wheels.  The
> > interior was almost like it came from the factory.  But it had a chrome,
> > drilled steering wheel.  I did not look under the hood.  This was a
> travesty
> > of a '51 Plymouth that someone (a "kid" or child-like adult?) had gotten
> his
> > hands on in order to imitate a 1950s kind of thing.  Now I'm not against
> an
> > all-out custom car, using a stock body, 50s or otherwise.  But something
> > "gets" me about half-way projects that don't really come off as fish nor
> > fowl.
> >
> > When I see a Triumph TR3, let's say, with modern wheels, I say "ugh".  I
> > make a harsh judgment about the taste of the owner.  Maybe the wheels look
> > good in and of themselves, but whoever owns that car is not a designer,
> and
> > when the factory hired a designer, they hired someone who understood
> pattern
> > and style.  Not always true, of course---and maybe there is a point when
> one
> > ought to loosen up a bit when replacing an original part.  But my feeling
> is
> > that we should be striving for originality.
> >
> > It might be interesting to hear what people have to say on this topic, or
> > what experiences they've encountered.  (No need to write to me
> personally).
> >
> > Phil Haldeman
> >
> >

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