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RE: TR4 White

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Subject: RE: TR4 White
From: "Musson, Carl" <musson@arts.usf.edu>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:41:32 -0500
The following is the chart from the VTR site for TR3A's which came from
Piggott's Original TR book.   I don't have the book at hand, but there was a
reference in it that at the change over, a car could be purchased in Sebring
White and a Spa White hardtop would be fitted (or it might have been the
other way around).    So the Sebring white was a consideration in the late
50's.  
Has nothing to do with the TR4 discussion, just a point of fact.
Carl
PAINT DATA
Color          Dockers/I.C.I.  Ditzler
Black             ICI2224       9000
Pearl White       ICI2857       8204
Sebring White     ICI3276       8247
Spa White         ICI3436       8335
Signal Red        ICI2859       70966
Green (B.R.G.)    ICI2855       42487
Primrose Yellow   ICI3220             (to Sep '58)
Pale Yellow                     81168 (from Sep '58) 
Powder Blue       ICI8013       12163 (from Mar '58)
Pearl Gray        ICI2931       32220 (to Sep '58)
Silverstone Gray  ICI3277           51943 (from Sep '58)
Apple Green (sp. ord.) ICI2920  42486 (from Mar '58)


 -----Original Message-----
From:   ZoboHerald@aol.com [mailto:ZoboHerald@aol.com] 
Sent:   Saturday, February 02, 2002 9:20 PM
To:     pethier@isd.net
Cc:     triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject:        Re: TR4 White

In a message dated 2/2/2002 3:21:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pethier@isd.net writes:
> But I am curious as to the original color Spa White.  The paint I have on
> there now is Maaco, from a PO.
> 
For a good "ballpark" idea of what Spa and some of the other period whites
looked like, try this color chart from Martin-Senour, at the VTR site:
<http://www.vtr.org/maintain/paint-charts/martin-senour-colors.jpg>
Of course, the usual caveats apply: it's a very old paper chart that might
have had some fading and wasn't 100% accurate to begin with; then factor in
scanning and all, as well as differences in individual monitors, etc., etc. 
* and it's still a good "relative" guide to most of the colors depicted.

I always considered Spa White to be a bit warmer (yellower) than New White
(Triumph code #19, whether you call it "New" or "Pure" or ???), with "Pearl"
in between? Velasquez Cream is perhaps yellower still.
[Nimbus (greenish) and Sebring (bluish) White are different still, but
mostly I don't think they apply to the TR series.]
* Andy

Andrew Mace, Vice President, Member Services
and 10/Herald/Vitesse (Sports 6) Vehicle Consultant
The Vintage Triumph Register <www.vtr.org>

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