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RE: honesty

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Subject: RE: honesty
From: john donnelly <pdonnel1@san.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:08:04 -0800
My two cents .....

This is a Triumph mail list for the betterment of these cars, not people or 
their opinions of others. 

Please stay on subject on this listing, or take it elsewhere. 

Thanks!

John in San Diego
'67 TR4A

-----Original Message-----
From:   TeriAnn Wakeman [SMTP:twakeman@cruzers.com]
Sent:   Friday, March 08, 2002 11:16 AM
To:     Fred Thomas; Triumphs; british
Cc:     spitfires
Subject:        Re: honesty

>if it were not for my check being a cashiers check
>I know what I would have told this person. My very last word to this person
>for any reason, hope to pass their car on the freeway, index finger-up as I
>pass.  Am I off base here or not, again I am not a stranger to this person.
>"FT"

I will fess up to being the person Fred is ranting about.  His e-bay 
purchase was one of about a dozen auctions I ran that concluded last 
weekend.  

It is standard e-bay practice not to ship an item until it is paid for.  
In the auction item web page and in my first e-mail to Fred after the 
conclusion of the auction I clearly stated the types of payment I could 
accept and that the item would be shipped upon receipt of payment.  I 
assumed he agreed to the terms I wrote on the e-bay item page prior to 
bidding and that he was familiar with standard e-bay payment/shipping 
processes.

I have not, in any way, treated Fred ANY differently than anyone else who 
had top bid on an item I had on e-bay. This is an e-bay transaction and 
not a Triumph list transaction. It is easier for me to handle the dozen 
different e-bay sales the same way and in accordance with standard e-bay 
practices.

I have not singled out Fred for any special treatment, positive or 
negative and have never been less than courteous in my e-bay related 
e-mail.  

> I AM NEITHER A THIEF, A LIAR, OR A SCAM ARTIST, AND HOW DARE YOU AT
> ANYTIME TIME OR FOR ANY REASON QUESTION MY HONESTY OR INTEGRITY, IF
> A CASHIERS CHECK WAS NOT ALREADY ON THE WAY TO YOU, I WOULD TELL YOU
> WHAT TO DO WITH THOSE LIGHTS AND LOVE TO BE THE ONE INSERTING THEM,
> I AM NOT A STRANGER TO YOU, YOU LACK A LOT ABOUT YOURSELF, 
> I JUST NEVER KNEW HOW MUCH.  "FT"

I have never stated nor intentionally implied any of the above about him. 
 All this seems to have been triggered from a request for a tracking 
number and by my reply stating that I'm awaiting receipt of his check 
prior to shipping the item and would inquire about a tracking number when 
the lamps shipped.

Fred had not, that I recall, specifically requested that the package be 
shipped prior to my receiving payment.  

> again I am not a stranger to this person

Previous to this e-bay auction my ONLY relationship with Fred has been 
answering or commenting upon list related e-mails of his or he mine.  
Other than recognizing his name on list e-mails I have no knowledge about 
nor relationship with this person.


Fred, your reply both surprised and shocked me as I never remotely 
intended imply any of the things you accuse me of.

I'm severely saddened about this whole episode.  But rest assured that 
you have created a strong lasting impression.

TeriAnn Wakeman               If you send me direct mail, please
Santa Cruz, California        start the subject line with TW - 
twakeman@cruzers.com           I will be sure to read the message

http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman   

"How can life grant us the boon of living..unless we dare"
Amelia Earhart 1898-1937

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