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Solar is an OLD name in battery chargers and testers. Basically it is the
good stuff. I remember our local service station (remember those) had a
big rolling Solar brand battery test cart. Would charge or test anything
from a 6v motorcycle battery all the way up to a 24v semi-truck battery.
When that station finally closed my dad went to the auction and tried to
buy that rig. I don't know how much it went for but I know he came home
empty handed.
It was a Battery tender brand unit (Junior model) that cooked the
motorcycle battery, but I have been using these and a 4-bank battery tender
plus on my Triumphs for years without issue. It seems to me they only tend
to cause issues with smaller batteries.
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:31 PM Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote:
> Two points. I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher end
> Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a
> battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time. I was advise=
d
> to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a week or
> two. What a pain.
>
> In my Airstream trailer, which has a charging system when plugged in, to
> charge the deep cycle batteries. I learned the hard way that the unit th=
at
> comes from the factory is crap and will cook the batteries. I upgraded t=
o
> a model that will let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no
> problem.
>
> So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this handy
> tool is excellent. SOLAR BA7
> https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7=
A4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3D3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=3D1&keywords=3Dsolar%2Bbattery%=
2Btester&qid=3D1602785609&sprefix=3Dsolar%2Bbattery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=
=3D8-3&th=3D1
> <https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI=
7A4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3D3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=3D1&keywords=3Dsolar+battery+t=
ester&qid=3D1602785609&sprefix=3Dsolar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=3D8-3&th=3D1=
>
> No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has nothing to do with solar.
>
> You don=E2=80=99t have to disconnect your battery. Battery doesn=E2=80=
=99t need to be
> fully charged to test it. You just connect it and enter it what kind of
> battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it=E2=80=99s rated for, and it t=
ells you
> the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has. I was blown
> away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3, and I
> think it=E2=80=99s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which is why =
it still
> works great.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> PH: 530-FIND-RYE
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:06 AM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>
> Funny you should mention this.
>
> I have a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around
> 1978. All steel construction with an analog gage in front. It still wor=
ks
> great.
>
> I purchased a modern charger about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few
> years.
>
> If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into the timer and le=
t
> it charge only an hour or so a day. Old tech + old tech beats new tech!
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Simo
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM
> *To:* list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] Battery troubles
>
> My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer. I put my new battery
> charger on it - It's all electronic vs my old one that just had a 3
> position switch and an analog meter.
>
> This new charger is quite fancy, it will tell you if the battery is
> connected backwards, light a light with a bad battery, etc. Trouble is
> I"m not sure I trust it.
>
> I've had this thing tell me 4 batteries are bad. I havent been driving m=
y
> truck, my wife hasn't been driving her Z4, and my mom's car battery show=
ed
> bad as well....
>
> I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what happens. It'=
s
> cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....
>
> Or they just sat so long they died..... Anyone have experience with
> those newer fancy chargers? Any issues or concerns?
>
> Thanks!
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Solar is an OLD name in battery chargers and testers.=
=C2=A0 Basically it is the good stuff.=C2=A0 I remember our local service s=
tation (remember those) had a big rolling Solar brand battery test cart.=C2=
=A0 Would charge or test anything from a 6v motorcycle battery all the way =
up to a 24v semi-truck battery.=C2=A0 When that station finally closed my d=
ad went to the auction and tried to buy that rig.=C2=A0 I don't know ho=
w much it went for but I know he came home empty handed. <br></div><div><br=
></div><div>It was a Battery tender brand unit (Junior model) that cooked t=
he motorcycle battery, but I have been using these and a 4-bank battery ten=
der plus on my Triumphs for years without issue.=C2=A0 It seems to me they =
only tend to cause issues with smaller batteries.<br></div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, =
2020 at 1:31 PM Rye Livingston <<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com";>ryel@mac=
.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style=3D"font-size:14px=
">Two points.=C2=A0 I learned from my local mechanic that even the higher e=
nd Battery Tender Plus that is in the little metal box, will not maintain a=
battery, but will cook a battery when left on all the time.=C2=A0 I was ad=
vised to plug it in for a week, 2 at the most, then disconnect if for a wee=
k or two.=C2=A0 What a pain.</span><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px"><br>=
</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px">In my Airstream trailer, w=
hich has a charging system when plugged in, to charge the deep cycle batter=
ies.=C2=A0 I learned the hard way that the unit that comes from the factory=
is crap and will cook the batteries.=C2=A0 I upgraded to a model that will=
let me leave it plugged in for months to years, no problem.</span><div><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:=
14px">So back to changing and knowing the status of your battery, this hand=
y tool is excellent.=C2=A0 SOLAR BA7 <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BA7-=
100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3D3UHUBU=
ZLSG9K3&dchild=3D1&keywords=3Dsolar+battery+tester&qid=3D160278=
5609&sprefix=3Dsolar+battery+test,aps,852&sr=3D8-3&th=3D1" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/BA7-100-1200-Electronic-Battery-System=
/dp/B0015PI7A4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3D3UHUBUZLSG9K3&dchild=3D1&keyword=
s=3Dsolar%2Bbattery%2Btester&qid=3D1602785609&sprefix=3Dsolar%2Bbat=
tery%2Btest%2Caps%2C852&sr=3D8-3&th=3D1</a></span></div><div><span =
style=3D"font-size:14px">No idea why it has Solar in the name as it has not=
hing to do with solar. =C2=A0</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:14p=
x"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px">You don=E2=80=99t h=
ave to disconnect your battery.=C2=A0 Battery doesn=E2=80=99t need to be fu=
lly charged to test it.=C2=A0 You just connect it and enter it what kind of=
battery it is and the Cold Cranking Amps it=E2=80=99s rated for, and it te=
lls you the condition of the battery and how many CCA it still has.=C2=A0 I=
was blown away when I tested a 5 year old Optima battery in my Triumph TR3=
, and I think it=E2=80=99s rated for 700 CCA, and it still has 620, which i=
s why it still works great.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px"=
><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px">Good luck,</span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><div style=3D"b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-size:14px">Rye Living=
ston</span></div><div style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:14px">Activities Chairman</span></div><div style=3D"backgro=
und-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-size:14px">Triumph Traveler=
s Sports Car Club</span></div><div style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,25=
5)"><span style=3D"font-size:14px">1960 Triumph TR3A</span></div><div style=
=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"float:none;display:in=
line;font-size:14px">PH: 530-FIND-RYE</span></div></div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div>=C2=A0<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Oct 15=
, 2020, at 11:06 AM, dave <<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">dave@ranteer.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;f=
ont-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;te=
xt-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"=
><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Fu=
nny you should mention this.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;fo=
nt-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div=
style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I have =
a battery charger that I bought from Kmart (remember them) around 1978.=C2=
=A0 All steel construction with an analog gage in front.=C2=A0 It still wor=
ks great.<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0i=
n;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I purchased a modern charg=
er about 10 years ago and it lasted only a few years.<u></u><u></u></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif">If you have a light timer, you can plug the charger into =
the timer and let it charge only an hour or so a day.=C2=A0 Old tech + old =
tech beats new tech!<u></u><u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div style=3D"border-style:solid none n=
one;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><=
span>=C2=A0</span>Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span>=C2=
=A0</span><b>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b>Chris Simo<br><b>Sent:</b><=
span>=C2=A0</span>Thursday, October 15, 2020 8:27 AM<br><b>To:</b><span>=C2=
=A0</span>list Triumph <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0=
</span>[TR] Battery troubles<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style=3D"margin:=
0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></di=
v><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if">My Tr4 hasn't gotten out at all this summer.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I put my n=
ew battery charger on it -=C2=A0 It's all electronic=C2=A0 vs my old on=
e that just had a 3 position switch and an analog meter.<u></u><u></u></div=
><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-seri=
f"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This new charger is quite fancy, it wi=
ll tell you if the battery is connected backwards,=C2=A0 light a light with=
a bad battery, etc.=C2=A0 Trouble is I"m not sure I trust it.<u></u><=
u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"marg=
in:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I've had this thi=
ng tell me 4 batteries=C2=A0are bad.=C2=A0 I havent been driving my truck, =
my wife hasn't been driving her Z4,=C2=A0 and my mom's car battery =
showed bad as well....<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0=
in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div=
></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san=
s-serif">I think I'm going to buy an old school charger and see what ha=
ppens.=C2=A0 It's cheaper than buying one of the four batteries....<u><=
/u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"=
margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Or they just sat =
so long they died.....=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyone have experience with those=
newer fancy chargers?=C2=A0 Any issues or concerns?<u></u><u></u></div></d=
iv><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-se=
rif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-siz=
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