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RE: moss box

To: morgans@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: moss box
From: Phil Roettjer <Phil.Roettjer@quantum.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:45:56 -0700
Will,
Yes first gear in the Moss box is straight cut on the older E-types as well
as on the Morgan +4s. It is also not uncommon for second gear synchro to be
shot and I don't believe you can just replace a synchro ring, you must
replace the entire gear. On the later E-type tranis (synchros on all 4
gears) you could just replace the synchro rings, but not on the early Moss
box. Also I owned an E-type for 18 years and had the opportunity to rebuild
the trani about 3 times during that period. Getting it out of the car is not
an easy job. You must pull the engine and trani together. It usually would
take me about 3 days to get the entire thing out of the car and that was
after I had done it a couple of times. Anyway on an E-type with a Moss box,
I would recommend replacing it with a later all synchro box. They work
pretty well and you can easily replace all the synchros (once you have the
trani out of the car) at a reasonable cost (last time I checked each synchro
ring only cost about $20). 

Regards,
Phil Roettjer

67 +4
67 MGB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Zehring [SMTP:zehrinwa@UMDNJ.EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 3:17 PM
> To:   morgans@autox.team.net
> Subject:      moss box
> 
> Dear all:
> 
> I had the opportunity to go for a spin in a moss box-equipped car
> yesterday
> (no, not a +4, in this case it was a '64 e-type) and have a few
> questions...
> 
> --is first gear a straight cut?  In this car there was a pronounced whine.
> --is the second gear synchro pretty weak?  This car (~85k miles) had
> essentially NO second gear synchro.  Pals suggest I shouldn't be surprised
> at that, but zowie, it sure does crimp your style if you have to nurse it
> into second every time.  
> --how hard is changing a synchro ring (ignoring for a minute how hard it
> is
> to just get to the box in the e-type)?  I have great respect for folks
> brave enough to work on trannys.  
> 
> Okay, so there isn't much direct Morgan content in this; at least its
> car-related, and not how heavy an ounce of water is.  ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> Will Zehring

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