So everyone keeps talking about the Schroth belts that are DOT
legal, with the Y straps and forgetting that Schroth makes some of the best
real racing harnesses in the business. For a really good description of the
features of the Competition harnesses check out :
http://www.hmsmotorsport.com/bin/webcart/webcart.cgi?CHANGE=YES&NEXTPAGE=sch
roth_c.html&CODE=145
which gives a really nice summary.
John Moore
1993 Toyota MR2 NA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Hadler [SMTP:jhadler@rmi.net]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 6:53 PM
> To: Rocky Entriken
> Cc: Moore, John; Autox List
> Subject: Re: Harnesses
>
> Rocky Entriken wrote:
> >
> > What I will never understand is why anyone would buy the Schroth system
> > described above for $219 -- which has a skinnier lap belt and an
> > illegal-for-anything-but-Solo-II Y-type shoulder strap -- when you can
> get a
> > legal-for-anything complete system from Simpson for $89.95?
>
> Probably because they:
>
> A] look real cool.
> B] are easier to get into and out of than a conventional harness.
> C] are comfortable enough that you can use them in a daily driver.
>
> I fully agree with you though, that for competition only purposes,
> they
> are a waste of money. But if you're going to use them in a daily driver,
> they start to make a little more sense.
>
> I have one in my Syncro (daily driver), and it is quite comfortable.
> I
> don't use it often though, as I have to fold the rear seats down to hook
> it up. But I do like it, and it does seem to work quite well.
>
> > BTW, for those who think they might ever go on a track (including Solo
> I),
> > the mandated lap belt is 3". Schroth fails that spec too.
>
> Yes it does, and I really don't think that Schroth sells that
> harness
> system with track in mind. They also sell conventional harnesses, and
> they're just as good as a simpson or otherwise, they just cost more...
>
> > I am not dissing the Schroth product or workmanship, which from all I've
> > heard is quite good. Just that it does not meet rulebook specs for any
> SCCA
> > competition in which specs are established. It may not be legal, but it
> > costs more.
>
> And there are certainly more competition bodies than SCCA out there.
> And some of them probably allow those belts in more ways than the SCCA
> does. But I think the main reasons are the three I listed above. They do
> look alot nicer in a street car than a big latch-lock harness.
>
> > But yes, if you just want a 2" lap belt for Solo II because 3" feels too
> > wide, you can get that from Simpson also. It's their
> > quarter-midget/mini-dragster system (obviously intended for kiddie
> racers,
> > but easily as good as whatever OEM belt came in your car) for $59.95.
>
> I dunno, the Schroth setup I have I feel is a good bit better for
> autox
> than the OEM 3 point belt. It definitely holds me in the seat better
> than the stock belt does.
>
> But just to be clear, I would never imply that the Schroth
> harnessbelts
> are as safe as the real deal. It is a neat, nice looking, and
> comfortable pseudo-harness. It is not real a racing harness.
>
> -Josh2
>
> --
> Joshua Hadler '74 914 2.0 CSP/Bi - Hooligan Racing #29 - CONIVOR
> '87 Quantum Syncro - aka stealth quattro
>
> jhadler@rmi.net
> http://rainbow.rmi.net/~jhadler/
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