I really like my Schroth harness that uses a 2" pull UP lap belt and
3" pull down shoulder straps. Makes it really easy to adjust and the 2" lap
belt is much more comfortable than a 3". Only problem is cost ... $219.
1993 Toyota MR2 NA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Entriken [SMTP:email@example.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 9:23 PM
> To: William Schenker; Autox List
> Subject: Re: Harnesses
> >I'm about to go the 5-point harness route (I'll keep the crotch belt to
> >keep the harness in place) and would love to hear pro/cons about what
> >styles: pull-down or pull-up; individual shoulder, H or Y style;
> >Simpson, etc.
> >Also, any tips on mounting - while keeping the OEM belts.
> >Note: I plan on using wrap-around style for the shoulder portion.
> >Bill Schenker
> >Cal Club #36 csp
> Harnesses -- I have pull-down styles on both my shoulder harnesses and my
> seatbelts. Next time I do belts, I am going to the pull-up on that. Down
> the shoulder harness seems to give me a nice tight fit, but down on the
> belts seems to run out of room and also not to have a good angle that
> tightens. It may say "pull" down, but in effect I am pushing since the
> direction is "away" from my body. I only feel tight from the lap belt if I
> adjust it BEFORE I buckle it.
> If you ever have any thought of doing more than pure solo II (including
> possibility of Solo I), get the H-style shoulder harness rather than the
> Y-type. Y is illegal for road racing. H is only one more mounting bracket.
> Big deal. Figure it this way -- with an H you are covered for any rules
> evantuality, with a Y you are not. Price difference is virtually nil. Why
> choose that which *maybe* could be a problem someday.
> BTW -- just looked at 3.3A and 3.3B and I don't find them ambiguous at
> Well, maybe a little, but it is language use, not numbers.
> First, 3.3A says the full harness "may not be used" be used in an open car
> without roll bars "meeting the full Height requirement of Appendix C. So
> you know a rollbar is required.
> Second, Appendix C says "It is strongly suggested" (the word "required" is
> never used) that the rollbar be at least 3 inches above the driver's
> This is funny in that the roadracing GCR specifies 2 inches, but that is
> Third, 3.3B says that as a minimum a rollbar "must" conform to Appendix C.
> Add that to the "may not" language of 3.3A and I guess that takes care of
> "strongly suggested." (except that my car, built to GCR rules, only needs
> the 2" clearance. But that is irrelevant for you).
> Fourth, it states a specific exception for Stock/SP vehicles that permits
> the "highest possible height which fits within a factory specified
> Conclusion: You have an SP car, thus a rollbar that barely lets you put
> top up is legal to let you run full harness in Solo II.
> But note what I said above about any possibility of competing beyond Solo
> (they DO do Solo I in your neighborhood) and the GCR minimums take effect.
> You may find a top-up rollbar too low to pass a Solo I tech.
> --Rocky Entriken