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Re: Driveshafted, Part 2

To: dhl@chelseamsl.com
Subject: Re: Driveshafted, Part 2
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 07:29:08 -0700
That is what I thought you said originally.  THe trouble is, I can't se how 
that could possible work.  These things are roller bearings
and having them oppose the adjoining one seems to defeat their purpose, which I 
assume is to aid in the inward/outward motion of the
slider shaft.

Admittedly, that motion will be minimal after the driveshaft is installed, so 
it might not make that much difference at all.  Perhaps
the function of having them oppose each other is for having every other flat 
end against a different wall of the slider to keep it
positioned properly.

Does that Bentley manual elaborate on that possibility?

Regards,
Joe 

"Donald H. Locker" wrote:
> 
> Hi, Joe.
> 
> The shaft I disassembled and the picture in Haynes had (in each row)
> alternating horizontal/vertical rollers.  i.e. each row of ten rollers
> had five vertical and five horizontal.  As I said, Bentley's
> instructions were to not disassemble the joint, which was an open
> invitation to me to disassemble the joint.  I don't think it had been
> open before.
> 
> I will try to find more authoratative documentation.
> 
> (more of my [in]famous ascii art
> 
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>  ===================
>  ===================
>  | O[]O[]O[]O[]O[] |--------
> 
> Donald.
> 
> > Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 20:02:44 -0700
> > From: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
> > CC: msp01091@isd.net, Spitfires@autox.team.net
> >
> > Donald,
> > Let me see if I am reading this right.  Are you saying that
> > every other roller should be pointing in an opposite direction from
> > its adjacent ones, or that the rows of rollers should be pointing in
> > opposite directions?
> >
> > I can't see how the first possibility can work and the ones I have
> > taken apart have the rollers curved sides all touching and the flat
> > ends all in a row.
> >
> > On a different (but related) note, I took apart a spare Spitfire Mk1
> > sliding shaft to see how the rollers were positioned and after
> > working all the dried up grease so that the sliding piece comes off,
> > I discovered that there are no rollers in that one!  Oh well!
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > "Donald H. Locker" wrote:
> > >
> > > The rollers should be alternating; the yokes should be parallel to
> > > each other.  Standard driveline practice.  (There was only one
> > > occasion where I had to set the u-joints out of phase, and that
> > > was for a driveshaft with 6 joints at various angles in a garbage
> > > truck, and where the manufacturer needed a very quick fix.  After
> > > getting the angles set correctly, we went back to normal phasing
> > > and retrofitted the few vehicles that were strange.)
> > >
> > > (in ascii: -O]---------------------[O- )
> > >
> > > FWIW, Bentley tells you not to disassemble the sliding joint, but
> > > an older Haynes that I have shows the joint nicely.  I could scan
> > > it if anyone really wants it.  And yes, someone lost the retainer
> > > for you.  Thank goodness you found the other rollers.
> > >
> > > Donald.
> > >
> [original message cut]

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