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Re: smooth ride, clutch stuff

To: tjh173@yahoo.com, 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: smooth ride, clutch stuff
From: "James A. Tabor" <jatabor@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 15:27:37 -0400
Hi all,

I am curious...
Is the sign of trouble a bad vibration in first or reverse
when let the clutch out? Or is this totally a different problem?
I had this trouble and was told I was experiencing clutch chatter.
And I should replace the components and have the fly wheel resurfaced,
and make sure it is torqued down properly. Well, for the first 6,000
miles this was fine, but now the chatter is back...not super bad but
could get worse.

Does this sound like a bad TO bearing?

-James


>From: Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com>
>To: 6pack@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: smooth ride, clutch stuff
>Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
>
>The stock-grade throwout bearings have been complete junk for the past
>few years.  No matter how you press them onto the sleeves, they fall
>apart in just a few thousand miles, if that.  I went through 4 t/o
>bearings in a few months during 1997, and finally put in one of the
>heavy-duty bearings made for Toyota Land Cruiser.  Haven't had a
>problem since.  TRF sells this bearing as part of their "magic clutch"
>kit with Sachs components (probably the same part that your mechanic is
>using).  Several TR parts suppliers are selling this kit.  I would
>caution anyone who needs to replace a t/o bearing, don't use the
>standard grade bearings.  I have heard nothing but complaints, and had
>several problems myself.
>
>Tim Holbrook
>1971 TR6
>
>--- RPVanLuchene@lbl.gov wrote:
> > Well I got my car back the other day and the car drives
> > beautifully. Immediately noticed it as I drove away from the shop and
> > onto the Bay Bridge. It is amazing how tight it feels. THe tube
> > conversion kit was the one-piece bracket type with KYB gas shocks. I
> > also had new inner U joints put in and new diff mounts installed. Up
> > front I got new shocks and new upper ball joints. Along with my
> > recently
> > restored wheels with new Coker redlines, the car is one smooth ride,
> > with perfect stiffness. I don't know how I have gone this long with
> > my
> > old worn-out setup - I guess I diddnt know what a "right" car was
> > supposed to feel like -
> >
> > I'm also still having clutch disengagement problems and talked
> > to the mechanic about it. He's been working on TR's for 30 years and
> > never had a problem with TR clutches until recently, about the last
> > 2-3
> > years. The throw out bearings have been bad - he said he talked to
> > someone at TRF about it and they told him he was intalling the TO
> > bearing into the sleeve incorrectly (he uses wood to do this I think)
> > he said well OK you guys put the bearing in the sleeve your way
> > and send it to me and he'll install it in a car. Well the bearing
> > ended
> > up failing and they wouldnt take it back! I told him someone needs to
> > talk to the manufacturer about this, b/c I know of a lotta others who
> > are having the same problems. More recently he has been using
> > a Japanese TO bearing made by a company called AP with a Sachs
> > pressure
> > plate and standard or Sachs clutch plate. It seems to have been
> > working
> > well for his other customers.
> > I'm going to try it out in a few weeks - hopefully this will be a
> > solid
> > fix. Will update the list more on this as it progresses.
> > I hope to have it finished before the Monterey weekend. I plan on
> > going
> > to the Concorso Italiano and maybe some of the races.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ryan
> > 6/71 Sapphire
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