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Re: ST @ Nationals

To: Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net>, Kevin Stevens <kevin_stevens@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ST @ Nationals
From: Judy Becker <judyb@cts.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:11:44 -0700
Here's another .02 1/2 cents worth.

ST was created. Drivers gave it a try. As they liked driving in the class,
they   began to invest in more time & money to prep their car. Seems this
is also the case with other SCCA classes as people gravitate towards the
class they're comfortable in.

Now after driving the car & enjoying it for a while , maybe the thought
crops up about going to Nationals. Lo & behold now ST drivers are told
they'll be bumped & will have to run in the SP classes. 

But their cars are prepped for ST not SP! 

Where is the anticipated sense of fun in competing with like prepped cars?

Granted, drivers going to Nationals for other classes are aware there is a
chance they'll be bumped. But to be told that the class you've been
prepping your car for & running in won't even be available leaves a big
question mark.

Also, re: ST, let's not forget, that for this class, sports cars are not
allowed. Which to me leaves 1/3 of the eligible type cars (coupes &
sedans)out & thereby may be part of the reason participation isn't as high
as expected.

If the idea is to get more people to start autoxing, then it seems to make
sense to allow/include more cars eligible for the class & there by attract
more drivers.

Just an observation.   

Judy b.   {:>}
fun in the sun autoxing at Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego CA with a 1st gen
RX7 (getting the oversteer under control, it's been fun)

 


At 05:58 PM 6/17/99 -0400, Paul Foster wrote:
>Kevin Stevens wrote:
>> 
>> > > --- Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > 1) You will have to shave street tires anyway to avoid chunking them.
>> > >
>> > > False. Haven't seen a hint of chunking on RE71s, MXX3 GTs, AVSis,
>> > > A520s, SP8000s, P7000s, and Potenza S02s on Street Touring cars ranging
>> > > from my 1980 lb Civic to a pair of big, fat, late-model Maximas. Street
>> > > tires have come a long way.
>> >
>> >Wasn't that an ad campaign for Virginia Slims?
>> >
>> >If your street tires aren't chunking you have a) shaved them, or b) are
>> >not driving hard enough.
>> 
>> It always amazes me how people who don't DO something always have an
opinion
>> about it.  Paul, you're wrong.  W-R-O-N-G.  Wrong.  Go repeat it to
yourself
>> a bunch of times.  You can feel however you want about street tires; I
don't
>> care, but don't go spreading misinformation.
>> 
>> Who am I to talk?  1998 SFR Street Tire class champion.  Ask Jean Kinser if
>> I drive hard enough.  You're wrong.
>
>Hi Kevin,
>
>Hmmm... What kind of tire? SP8000s again? Maybe these tires are immune
>due to their tread pattern. There are a lot of variables here. But IN
>GENERAL you cannot expect full tread depth street tires to not chunk if
>you really push them hard. Barry Goldine told us this at the SFR Solo II
>drivers school in '88. CHD was there. Ask him. Last time I saw it happen
>was to a rental car at the year-end MNY PCA slugfest a couple years ago.
>IN GENERAL if you don't shave tires you can chunk the tread due to heat
>buildup. You can even do this to Kumhos although I admit I have only
>seen it happen at the track.
>
>Regarding misinformation, get over it. It is no big deal. I have been
>wrong before and I certainly shall be shown to be wrong again. Maybe
>even multiple times in one day. So what?
>
>Paul Foster
>
>

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