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Re: ST @ Nationals

To: Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net>, Kevin Stevens <kevin_stevens@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ST @ Nationals
From: Judy Becker <judyb@cts.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:00:20 -0700
I think my e-mail program got a bad hiccuppppp!!!

judy  {:>}

At 09:10 AM 6/18/99 -0700, Judy Becker wrote:
>Here's another .02 1/2 cents worth.
>
>ST was created. Drivers gave it a try. As they liked driving in the class,
>they   began to invest in more time & money to prep their car. Seems this
>is also the case with other SCCA classes as people gravitate towards the
>class they're comfortable in.
>
>Now after driving the car & enjoying it for a while , maybe the thought
>crops up about going to Nationals. Lo & behold now ST drivers are told
>they'll be bumped & will have to run in the SP classes. 
>
>But their cars are prepped for ST not SP! 
>
>Where is the anticipated sense of fun in competing with like prepped cars?
>
>Granted, drivers going to Nationals for other classes are aware there is a
>chance they'll be bumped. But to be told that the class you've been
>prepping your car for & running in won't even be available leaves a big
>question mark.
>
>Also, re: ST, let's not forget, that for this class, sports cars are not
>allowed. Which to me leaves 1/3 of the eligible type cars (coupes &
>sedans)out & thereby may be part of the reason participation isn't as high
>as expected.
>
>If the idea is to get more people to start autoxing, then it seems to make
>sense to allow/include more cars eligible for the class & there by attract
>more drivers.
>
>Just an observation.   
>
>Judy b.   {:>}
>fun in the sun autoxing at Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego CA with a 1st gen
>RX7 (getting the oversteer under control, it's been fun)
>
> 
>
>
>At 05:58 PM 6/17/99 -0400, Paul Foster wrote:
>>Kevin Stevens wrote:
>>> 
>>> > > --- Paul Foster <pfoster@gdi.net> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > 1) You will have to shave street tires anyway to avoid chunking
them.
>>> > >
>>> > > False. Haven't seen a hint of chunking on RE71s, MXX3 GTs, AVSis,
>>> > > A520s, SP8000s, P7000s, and Potenza S02s on Street Touring cars
ranging
>>> > > from my 1980 lb Civic to a pair of big, fat, late-model Maximas.
Street
>>> > > tires have come a long way.
>>> >
>>> >Wasn't that an ad campaign for Virginia Slims?
>>> >
>>> >If your street tires aren't chunking you have a) shaved them, or b) are
>>> >not driving hard enough.
>>> 
>>> It always amazes me how people who don't DO something always have an
>opinion
>>> about it.  Paul, you're wrong.  W-R-O-N-G.  Wrong.  Go repeat it to
>yourself
>>> a bunch of times.  You can feel however you want about street tires; I
>don't
>>> care, but don't go spreading misinformation.
>>> 
>>> Who am I to talk?  1998 SFR Street Tire class champion.  Ask Jean
Kinser if
>>> I drive hard enough.  You're wrong.
>>
>>Hi Kevin,
>>
>>Hmmm... What kind of tire? SP8000s again? Maybe these tires are immune
>>due to their tread pattern. There are a lot of variables here. But IN
>>GENERAL you cannot expect full tread depth street tires to not chunk if
>>you really push them hard. Barry Goldine told us this at the SFR Solo II
>>drivers school in '88. CHD was there. Ask him. Last time I saw it happen
>>was to a rental car at the year-end MNY PCA slugfest a couple years ago.
>>IN GENERAL if you don't shave tires you can chunk the tread due to heat
>>buildup. You can even do this to Kumhos although I admit I have only
>>seen it happen at the track.
>>
>>Regarding misinformation, get over it. It is no big deal. I have been
>>wrong before and I certainly shall be shown to be wrong again. Maybe
>>even multiple times in one day. So what?
>>
>>Paul Foster
>>
>>
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