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Re: Pick the winners?

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Subject: Re: Pick the winners?
From: Adam Popp <raft321@fuse.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:45:38 -0400
Ooooooops I meant Hello Katie!!

Adam Popp wrote:
> 
> Hello Kelly!Sorry to cause u any grief on this subject. Like u said
> picking the winners is just for fun. Just because someone tries to picks
> the winner doesn't mean they r the ones who will exactly win. What
> matters is who is the winner in each class after the nationals is over.
>         I didn't really know if Gary and Joe weren't going until Jeff Winchell
> said that he wasn't going on here. I just thought that the ace reporters
> of Solo II for SportsCar, like yourself, would of known that.
> I just would like to see less mistakes in next year's pick the winners
> if that is possible. If it seemed like I was making a big deal about
> this pick the winner thing, then I am sorry and I'm out!
> 
> Adam Popp
> 86 Silver/Grey Corvette
> R.A.F.T. Racing
> 
> Kelly, Katie wrote:
> >
> > Well well Li'l Adam, as a matter of fact, I didn't know Joe and Gary weren't
> > going to Topeka until I spent a weekend in Vancouver. Until that, really,
> > who knew? Did YOU?
> >
> > What that means is I am INDEED the Ace Reporter, willing to fly around the
> > world to find out the real scoop. I am a truly dedicated journalist, no
> > doubt about it. How many others would make this sort of sacrafice?
> >
> > So, please, Adam, understand that I am only trying my very hardest. Next
> > year, I guess I'll have to fly to Vancouver maybe a little bit sooner. I
> > would do that for you. Maybe a couple of times. In the summer months. When
> > the pavement is sticky. And it's not too windy.
> >
> > I'm sorry. My disease isn't in remission like the doctor said. Oh, no, it's
> > coming... back...FLASHBACK!...no...Phantomitis...HELP!
> >
> > Katie K., thinking of defecting to Canada for purely warped, unhealthy,
> > addictive reasons.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Adam Popp [SMTP:raft321@fuse.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 5:36 PM
> > > To:   Kelly, Katie; autox@autox.team.net
> > > Subject:      Re: Pick the winners?
> > >
> > > Yeah, but u made a few mistakes. That's all I am saying. It seems like u
> > > guys take it serious though. I saw a line in there that said something
> > > like Frank Stagnaro makes it hard for us pick against him every year,
> > > when we seem we r right when we pick him and u picked him again this
> > > year. It's not that fun to read when u pick the same people over and
> > > over again. Why don't u pick Buddy Jasmine, Ron Ver Hulm or Gordon
> > > Kinney.  And u guys picked Gary Milligan, and John Ames when somebody
> > > said that John has been running in a different class and Milligan isn't
> > > even going to the Nationals this year. And I also saw a mistake, at
> > > least I hope it was where It said if Mary Brotz and Mary Wentzel both
> > > enter they should win. Well that is the same person. I know that picking
> > > the winners is just for fun, but I think u and the other pickers in
> > > sportscar and NAP should put a little more effort in making your
> > > selections!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kelly, Katie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just want to say a couple of things regarding this Pick the Winners
> > > > controversy. Maybe a few.
> > > >
> > > > 1) We're not voting for Prom Queen.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Writers for SportsCar were asked to submit their picks long before
> > > there
> > > > was even an entry list.
> > > >
> > > > 3) NAP suckered a really nice guy into doing this for nine years because
> > > no
> > > > one else has enough balls. He's pretty isolated down in Georgia, but I
> > > think
> > > > he does a fair job regardless. :)
> > > >
> > > > 4) Rita Wilsey is more than deserving to be mentioned as a contender in
> > > BSP,
> > > > though I haven't seen her name on the entry list yet. Adam Popp is too,
> > > as
> > > > are many, many other fine folks in that class. I ran in BSPL a few years
> > > > ago, and I know the talent in that class, and I know Rita, so I can say
> > > with
> > > > great confidence picking Rita is hardly a slam on the other competitors.
> > > I
> > > > can hardly fault Dick Berger's selection. I just hope she goes!
> > > >
> > > > 5) If we really knew who would win Nationals, we wouldn't even bother
> > > going
> > > > to Topeka. This is supposed to be for fun! It's just something to add a
> > > > little drama before Nationals, to increase our excitement (and anxiety)
> > > > levels to such an extreme that it's all we can think about.
> > > >
> > > > I really wish people wouldn't take this stuff so seriously. And I can
> > > speak
> > > > from both sides, being a picker, and even sometimes a pickee. I
> > > understand
> > > > the psychological ramifications of not being picked to win when you
> > > think
> > > > you have a shot. On the other hand, this is really just some people
> > > being
> > > > very silly, trying to create some hype.
> > > >
> > > > It's like this story Dick Berger told me a few years ago. He picked some
> > > guy
> > > > to win in EP, some guy in an Audi. Howard Wolf, who eventually won the
> > > class
> > > > that year, asked Dick, "Who is that guy, Dick? You really think he's
> > > going
> > > > to win?"
> > > >
> > > > And Dick said, "Possibly, in a hurricane, he might have a chance."
> > > >
> > > > "Well, then why'd you pick him?"
> > > >
> > > > "Because now you know who he is, and for three minutes at the Solo II
> > > > Nationals this guy's going to be noticed."
> > > >
> > > > Sometimes, being human, we don't just pick whom we THINK we win. We pick
> > > > whom we'd like to SEE win. I know for my SportsCar picks, I picked some
> > > > people who on paper didn't look as good as some more obvious choices,
> > > but I
> > > > also know who they are and what they're about, and I know they have the
> > > > potential and the desire, so there you go. It it MY FAULT they decided
> > > not
> > > > to go to Nationals this year? Cut me some slack, please! God forbid if
> > > Solo
> > > > II ever becomes televized, when our media can no longer perform this
> > > sick
> > > > and warped practice of rooting for underdogs, which I am all for, 100%.
> > > >
> > > > Which reminds me. I have to go back and vote for myself.
> > > >
> > > > Katie K.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Adam Popp [SMTP:raft321@fuse.net]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 4:48 PM
> > > > > To:   autox@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject:      Re: Pick the winners?
> > > > >
> > > > > If Gary Milligan changed his mind and came back this year for the
> > > > > nationals, they should put the cone rule in affect for him so they can
> > > > > make AM competitive, because the past three years his phantom and him
> > > > > have won by about 4 seconds more every year.
> > > > >          And what's up with SportsCar and North American Pylon. Why do
> > > > > they make the picks whith out knowing all the facts. They pick Rita
> > > > > Wisley in B/SP??? What's up with that? She's a good driver, but I
> > > don't
> > > > > think she will win B/SP. My brother comes into mind.  I think
> > > SportsCar
> > > > > doesn't put enough effort into their picks and North American Pylon
> > > > > doesn't either. It seems like they pick the same people every year.
> > > > > Using the words of Dennis Miller, of course that's my opinion and I
> > > > > could be wrong. I'm out!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff Winchell wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Like in AM, Gary Milligan is not on the list. I think a lot of
> > > > > > > > people will pick him, if he is on. Unless the Milligan pick is
> > > to
> > > > > easy
> > > > > > > > and u r not putting him on there because of his phantom.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well SportsCar picked him even though he is not going to be
> > > > > > > running.<s> The Phantom is staying home this year.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And SportsCar and NAP picked John Ames in ESP and I don't think
> > > > > > > he's run an ESP event this year (he ran in SS at the NT this
> > > > > > > weekend). There were other examples of that in the recent
> > > > > > > SportsCar and NAP articles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like how they do it based on who's registered so far, plus you
> > > can
> > > > > > > update your choices when more registrations come in.
> > > > > > > Jeff Winchell
> > > > > > > http://PonyCar.Net


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