Like I said, I've spent two days solid on these...and have nothing to
reference to for correct times. There's no magic available to repair.
And like I said to Tony, there's a whole season to prove you're a
better driver.
And there's a whole season for us to get the motorhome in the right
direction, for the karts (and everyone else!) to somehow come up with
more visible and clear numbers, with class designations next to them.
No one will get the correct TTOD assigned to them if the T&S crew can't
figure out who you are.
The T&S crew has to realize how important it is to get the correct
times on the cards. If all else fails, it is possible to stop running
for a few minutes and gather the data at the event. It's been done. At
this event, we didn't have the luxury of plenty of daylight and time,
but as the season progresses we will have the time to make sure the
information is correct. As a backup, someone in the T&S crew could keep
a running log of times turned, even with the car #, so we could look it
up. Just a thought to throw out.
It's going to take a strong case for me to make any changes at this
point. The results are ready to go to the printer tomorrow a.m.
--Pat Kelly
"Kelly, Katie" wrote:
>
> Here's what happened:
>
> Because of our late start (due to the late arrival of the motorhome), the
> grid and motorhome were set up too quickly and logistically poorly. It was
> hard enough seeing cars at the line. Karts were impossible.
>
> There were terrible communication problems. Someone was announcing by radio
> who it was at the line, but it was never correct. Since we couldn't see who
> it was, we had to trust the person on the radio. We were completely blind in
> there. The scorer was trying desperately to see the numbers on the karts as
> they went by on course, but it was impossibly frustrating.
>
> This wasn't just a problem for the third group, but for all the remaining
> groups. Sometimes, the card sorter couldn't see who was there, so s/he'd
> just guess. Or s/he would just neglect to even find the card. Sometimes
> s/he'd go strictly by the radio, which was always wrong. That's the part I
> don't get, but I SUSPECT it's because who ever was radioing in the car
> numbers was going by who was being SENT to the line, versus who was AT the
> line. Meaning there were three or four cars in front of the number presently
> being radioed in. I say this, because finally, in group six, I was watching
> Vernon card sort. He was going by what was on the radio, and it NEVER
> matched who was at the line. I saw this with my very own eyes. So, we turned
> off the radio, and did it solely by our own eyes, and suddenly everything
> was all better.
>
> This is a serious problem and if something isn't done to fix it, we're going
> to have nightmares like this forever. That motorhome is really comfy and
> convenient, but when you can't see who's at the line and who's finishing,
> and who's out on course, it defeats the whole purpose. We were better off
> with the old trailer.
>
> My suggestion for now is that since we probably do need to use radios at
> least for the start, PLEASE let it be the starter who has the radio. Say
> simply, "At the line, car number 123, CSP, White Honda Prelude, followed by
> 46, ESP, Blue Mustang." That's ALL. We were sometimes getting these long
> lists, like, "Okay, it's 47, then 34, then 99, then 128, did you get that?"
> Uh....
>
> There was a problem with the coordination of the karts with cars, and that's
> my fault. I had told the grid person that the karts go at once, but I
> neglected, due to my own assumptions, to explain that the karts would get
> one run each, and then the cars would go, and they'd rotate. I assumed that
> this was all known, and it wasn't.
>
> At any rate, yes, you are absolutely correct. The times are incorrect. It
> looks like they're wrong for the junior karts as well. I know that for
> regular cars, there were mistakes made all day. I don't know what the rules
> are about changing times, but since it's so obvious that there were so many
> mistakes made, I think we should fix these times. Charlie? Magical Results
> Lady?
>
> Katie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dcolicch@ix.netcom.com [mailto:dcolicch@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 7:04 PM
> To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Trailer crew in 3rd heat
>
> Can anyone explain what happend in the trailer when the karts were running.
> Almost everyone in f125, and I suspect jr kart has incorrect times.
> -Tony
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