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Re: Any recommendations on Brake Pads?

To: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>,
Subject: Re: Any recommendations on Brake Pads?
From: "Jose Garcia" <butchgarcia@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 00:52:35 -0800
I've only tried Hawk HPs and they are quite good.  Nice pedal pressure on
the street and on the autox strip.  So far so good....

Hey Dennis, you know how they feel, you've driven the car...

Butch
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
To: "Dennis & Sherry Armstrong" <miata@pacbell.net>;
<ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: Any recommendations on Brake Pads?


> i have used the axxis metal masters on my probe, and when warmed up they
are
> very impressive.  they seem like normal brakes when cold.  ive been
through
> a couple of sets of pads but no rotors yet (although i didnt mic them last
> pad change- i should)
>
> ive put the porterfield R4S on several cars, not sure they are better than
> the metalmasters.
>
> also used the carbotech panther pads, seem fine too.
>
> i have porterfield R4 pads and shoes on the ITS road race car.  drove it a
> few hundred miles on the street and the brakes worked cold.  the car
suffers
> on the track from the limitations of the stock brakes.  otherwise they
seem
> good.
>
> they all seem about the same.  the only real difference i could find was
$19
> pep boys pads WILL fade on a very powerful car at laguna seca (and in 1
> lap).  your brake fluid will likely boil before any of the performance
pads
> reach their temp limits, so high temp dot 4 brake fluid and brake ducts
will
> make more of a difference.  i went back to cheap pep boys pads on my
street
> cars.
>
> on the street im impressed you drive hard enough to fade pads on that
light
> car, you wild man!  if your rotors are undersize (discard width), they may
> not be getting full pressure from the pads.  new brake fluid reduces its
> susceptibility from heating. that said i havent bled the probe brakes
since
> they went south on me in the summer of 1999 at thunderhill.
>
> -james
> OSP - Off Season Prepping
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis & Sherry Armstrong" <miata@pacbell.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <miatamail@txt.com>;
> <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 10:40 PM
> Subject: Any recommendations on Brake Pads?
>
>
> > I am about to do the brakes on my Miata. Does anyone have any
> recommendations
> > or personal experiences with different brands?
> >
> >  I have been thinking about the following
> >
> >  Axxis Metal Master
> >
> >  Axxis Ultimate
> >
> >  EBC Green stuff Kevlar
> >
> >  Hawk
> >
> >  I realize that for autocross the stock pads are fine. What I want an
> improvement
> > in is for stopping power at freeway speeds. However I don't want pads
that
> will
> > increase peddle effort or need warming up before they work. I also don't
> want
> > them to be noisy.
> >
> >  Any recommendations?
> >
> >                                             Dennis Armstrong

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