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Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid

To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Starter Solenoid
From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:45:50 -0500
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Joe
I=E2=80=99m pretty familiar with wiring but in this case I hesitate to recom=
mend how to change wiring without havi
G a partial schematic.=20
Might you have a schematic or a photo of the back of the Tach?
Coincidentally, Peter Bayer lens Nisongers and is a good friend so I can cal=
l him directly if I were able to see even a hand sketch of your relevant wir=
ing.=20
Then, after a call to Peter. Ayer I might be able to offer a recommendation.=
=20
If it bothers the group to see all these emails you can contact me directly a=
t fast427@sbcglobal.net
Don=20

=46rom Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
Or 203-264-8301 home

> On Nov 20, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Thanks to Donald Antilla and Ron Fraser for their quick replies.  They hav=
e me on the right track now.  In my new wiring harness I have one white wire=
 that comes out of the harness behind the tach and I assumed it plugged into=
 the white wire (labeled "signal in") on the back of the tach.  My tach was r=
ebuilt by Nisonger and has the updated electronics.  I ohmed that wire out a=
nd it is the one that goes to the ballast resistor.  So should I run a new w=
ire from the ignition switch to the tach and piggyback the ballast wire to t=
hat? =20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>=20
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:31 PM Donald Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net> wr=
ote:
>> The starter solenoid temporarily supplies 12 volts to the. Oil while the s=
tarter is cranking.=20
>> As soon as you release the key that temporary 12 volts is disconnected an=
d the power to the coil is via the ballast resistor.=20
>> It sounds like you either have a bad ballast resistor or broken wiring to=
 the ballast resistor.=20
>> Temporarily add an alligator jumper across the two tabs on the resistor a=
nd see if it starts. If it does start you have a bad resistor.=20
>> And if that does not work, start looking for lack of 12 volts INTO. The b=
allast resistor.=20
>>=20
>> =46rom Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
>> Or 203-264-8301 home
>>=20
>> > On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.ne=
t> wrote:
>> >=20
>> > =EF=BB=BF
>> > Hey,
>> >=20
>> > I'm trying to fire up my engine for the first time and I have a questio=
n.  When I turn the key to the start position the engine turns over and fire=
s up.  But as soon as I let go of the key so that it returns to the run posi=
tion it dies.  It seems like the ignition system is only getting power when t=
he key is in the start position.=20
>> >=20
>> > I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram.  The white/blue wire from t=
he solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem to imply that there should a=
lways be 12V on this wire when the key is in the run position.  Is this corr=
ect?  I'm only getting the 12V on this line when the key is in the start pos=
ition. =20
>> >=20
>> > Any ideas?
>> >=20
>> > Thanks,
>> > Joe Brown
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >=20
>> > tigers@autox.team.net
>> >=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Joe<div>I=E2=80=99m pretty familiar with wi=
ring but in this case I hesitate to recommend how to change wiring without h=
avi</div><div>G a partial schematic.&nbsp;</div><div>Might you have a schema=
tic or a photo of the back of the Tach?</div><div>Coincidentally, Peter Baye=
r lens Nisongers and is a good friend so I can call him directly if I were a=
ble to see even a hand sketch of your relevant wiring.&nbsp;</div><div>Then,=
 after a call to Peter. Ayer I might be able to offer a recommendation.&nbsp=
;</div><div>If it bothers the group to see all these emails you can contact m=
e directly at fast427@sbcglobal.net</div><div>Don&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"l=
tr">From<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-colo=
r: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192=
, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.2304=
69); ">&nbsp;Don's iPhone 203-592-8427</span><div><span class=3D"Apple-style=
-span" style=3D"-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -we=
bkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composit=
ion-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Or 203-264-8301 home</span>=
</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 20, 2019, a=
t 5:29 PM, Joe Brown &lt;jbbrown1980@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Thanks to Donald Antilla and Ron Fraser for their quick replies.&nbsp; They=
 have me on the right track now.&nbsp; In my new wiring harness I have one w=
hite wire that comes out of the harness behind the tach and I assumed it plu=
gged into the white wire (labeled "signal in") on the back of the tach.&nbsp=
; My tach was rebuilt by Nisonger and has the updated electronics.&nbsp; I o=
hmed that wire out and it is the one that goes to the ballast resistor.&nbsp=
; So should I run a new wire from the ignition switch to the tach and piggyb=
ack the ballast wire to that?&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><d=
iv>Joe Brown</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 3:31 PM Donald Antilla &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank">fast427@sbcglobal.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The star=
ter solenoid temporarily supplies 12 volts to the. Oil while the starter is c=
ranking. <br>
As soon as you release the key that temporary 12 volts is disconnected and t=
he power to the coil is via the ballast resistor. <br>
It sounds like you either have a bad ballast resistor or broken wiring to th=
e ballast resistor. <br>
Temporarily add an alligator jumper across the two tabs on the resistor and s=
ee if it starts. If it does start you have a bad resistor. <br>
And if that does not work, start looking for lack of 12 volts INTO. The ball=
ast resistor. <br>
<br>
=46rom Don's iPhone 203-592-8427<br>
Or 203-264-8301 home<br>
<br>
&gt; On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =EF=BB=BF<br>
&gt; Hey,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I'm trying to fire up my engine for the first time and I have a questio=
n.&nbsp; When I turn the key to the start position the engine turns over and=
 fires up.&nbsp; But as soon as I let go of the key so that it returns to th=
e run position it dies.&nbsp; It seems like the ignition system is only gett=
ing power when the key is in the start position. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I'm a little confused by the wiring diagram.&nbsp; The white/blue wire f=
rom the solenoid goes to the coil and this would seem to imply that there sh=
ould always be 12V on this wire when the key is in the run position.&nbsp; I=
s this correct?&nbsp; I'm only getting the 12V on this line when the key is i=
n the start position.&nbsp; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Any ideas?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Joe Brown<br>
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