A 308 1/4 before the blow up at Bonneville. I believe Fred said 1200
lbs. down force from the wing.
Tom
John Beckett wrote:
>
> I think Fred Dannenfeltzer runs a 2-speed, possibly 3-speed, lenco. Uses a
> ton of ballast and a hellatious wing for down force.
>
> JB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dahlgren" <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> To: "Jim Dincau" <jdincau@qnet.com>
> Cc: "The Butters Family" <bbutters@dmi.net>; "Marge and/or Dave Thomssen"
> <mdthom@radiks.net>; "Land-speed Racers" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 4:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Bonneville Transmissions
>
> > Then explain to me and Fred please pardon my spelling if I miss on your
> > last name.. Fred Danzenfelter's car i have seen him go over 300 at the
> > quarter... drove off a couple of years ago car was real hooked and had a
> > trans of some sort I thought then at least sure thought i heard a gear
> > change and there sure is nothing that is power limited in that car. Gets
> > the job done the way it ought to be. I personally hope I can get a car
> > that has that much power down the track as well as he does someday!!
> >
> > Jim Dincau wrote:
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > Think about this, some cars are horsepower limited at Bonneville, some
> are
> > > traction limited. It doesnt allways follow that the "right" trans
> gearing
> > > will get you more acceleration, sometimes it just gets you more
> wheelspin.
> > > At Bonneville the desireability of a multi speed gear box SEEMS to be
> > > inversely proportional to the amount of torque available. With a high
> > > horsepower car you end up
> > > Jim in Palmdale, where it just rained 8 drops.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: dahlgren <dahlgren@uconect.net>
> > >
> > > > So if I understand this right then... If I put my pro stock car in 4th
> > > > and leave the starting line that that at the end of the quarter mile
> the
> > > > car will go the same speed as if i used all the gears?? When you lose
> 5
> > > > mph at the quarter does your car go the same speed at the 5 as if you
> > > > were not 5 mph down?? Why do all the 'big' streamliners keep wanting a
> > > > longer course ??? How fast does your car or cars you have messed with
> go
> > > > ??? I am sure that if I start in any gear that my Pontiac i drive on
> the
> > > > street will go exactly the same speed at the 5 no matter what gear I
> > > > start in.. but going 125 is not much of a challenge either. How do
> > > > explain away the change of shift points in Keith Turks car making 203
> at
> > > > the 3 instead of 197 at the 5???? Doesn't having the correct gearing
> and
> > > > going as fast as soon as possible make the course appear to be longer
> > > > because you are going faster sooner and have more distance left to get
> > > > the last MPH out of the car??
> > > >
> > > > to quote "We got a 225 record with 183cid 3rd gear only??? Nebulous"
> > > >
> > > > Is this the theory you are using?? Do you think the 225 might of been
> a
> > > > 245 with all gears working??
> > > >
> > > > well we got a 216 record 219 qualifying with a 91cid gas lakester and
> > > > went 213 at the 1/4... used all 5 gears.. which one is more efficient
> > > > ??? and that was on the first pass.... Do you think if we left in high
> > > > gear that the car would of gone 219 at the 5 on 91 inches ??? What's
> the
> > > > physics behind your theory??
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah and the e-mail you quote.. what's that thing doing on the long
> > > > course at 179 if you should be going over 175 at the quarter in the
> > > > first place???
> > > >
> > > > Hate to make this sound like a flame but I really can't figure out the
> > > > logic behind it all.. Help me be smarter and tell me how this is all
> > > > supposed to make sense..
> > > > A very confused engineer..
> > > > Dave Dahlgren
> > > >
> > > >
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