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Re: Tire reliabilty, and traction control

To: Joe Amo <jkamo@rapidnet.com>
Subject: Re: Tire reliabilty, and traction control
From: rtmack <RTMACK@pop3.concentric.net>
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 00:34:24 -0600
Joe:
like I said, I think some of the more powerful cars are killing their tires 
with wheelspin.  I
want them to have the option of TC to try to help prevent high speed tire 
failures.   I
haven't seen the tire failure problem on any of the bikes.  Have you?  If so, 
we need to dig
into that while we have this thread going, too!  And if I begin to think that 
I'm generating
enough power to start shredding my bike tire, I'll put TC on in a New York 
minute (assuming
it's legal by then).  Of course, bike control is an issue too.  But (with 
respect to high
speeds on the salt)-- it's an issue that I don't know much about.   Until I 
make a few passes
on a bike myself, I probably won't really know what to think about whether or 
not I would want
TC on a bike to help with control.  Considering your excellent experience, you 
can carry the
ball (for or against) TC for the purpose of bike control-- 'cause right now I 
don't really
feel like I know very much about it.  But I am looking forward to finding out.
Russ Mack

Joe Amo wrote:

> Why (respectfully) in the hell would you campaign
> for TC, then proclaim not wanting to run it on a,
> vehicle with half the contact patch, and often twice
> the drag?????
>
> Joe :)
>
> rtmack wrote:
>
> > Joe:
> > since I am thinking that my own first LSR machine will likely be a bike-- 
>and not
> > particularly powerful by todays standards-- I will not prioritize TC for 
>it, even if TC
> > becomes legal.  So I'm looking forward to personally experiencing what you 
>are talking
> > about.  Kinda like going fast on firm sand?  Anyway, my own bike experience 
>tells me
> > that a bike gives much clearer feedback than most cars-- and responds much 
>more
> > intuitively to the rider.  Not sure I'd ever want TC on a bike, either 
>(except maybe for
> > a way-powerful streamliner).  Hope to find out within the next year or so.
> > Russ Mack
> >
> > Joe Amo wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, TC works (I mean, would likely work :):))
> > > best on two wheel machines, but alas, the "little"
> > > salt dance that the back end does, is a naturally
> > > beautiful way for the rear to "hunt" for traction,
> > > this oscillation, combined with the inherent
> > > gyroscopic assistance of the rotating wheels,
> > > is a simply wonderful way to communicate with
> > > mother nature, and I for one appreciate mother
> > > nature and her dancing rear ends

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