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1. Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Andy Hollis <awhollis@swbell.net>; Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 08:10:47 -0500; The Prepared category as a whole has participation issues right now. In fact, one of the topics SEB Chair Colan Arnold brought up at the Town Hall meeting was "How can we get more participation in Pr; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00003.html (11,485 bytes)
2. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:33:27 -0400 (EDT); You forgot another obvious one. CP. Please, SEB folks, whatever you do with the _other_ prepared classes, don't screw around with CP. We like it. Leave it the hell alone. :-) Secondly, SM appeals to; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00005.html (12,203 bytes)
3. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:46:11 -0500; I really don't want to step into this storm for several reasons....but I do have one question/thought: Is AP's participation being harmed by it being the "unlimited" prepared class? It is now like AM; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00007.html (8,538 bytes)
4. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Charles Cox" <charles@coastalbay.com>; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:56:06 -0700; Well said, Andy. This whole talk has halted my plans to build or continuing to developed my Miata for DP... As you rightfully say, there is no comparison to the AP cars V. Mites...apples and oranges; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00008.html (13,635 bytes)
5. RE: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Andy Hollis <awhollis@swbell.net>; Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:27:56 -0500; Or how about my comparison of SP cars? You failed to mention that, Rick. maybe be in ASP or BSP with the Vettes instead of CSP? The weight break is already there. Agreed. But not to the exclusion of; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00018.html (9,641 bytes)
6. RE: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Andy Hollis <awhollis@swbell.net>; Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:58:01 -0500; I'm talking about Miatas versus Corvettes (remember the Miata->AP theme of this thread?) In SP, where wheels/tires are unlimited, and the weight differential is already there between Corvettes and M; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00027.html (9,797 bytes)
7. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 18:12:09 -0500; So instead, those of us already in the class have to spend far more than that just to keep up! "At what cost?" At whatever cost it takes to be competitive when building a new car. Someone building a; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00037.html (12,601 bytes)
8. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: SOLOMIATA@aol.com; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:27:53 EDT; I disagree. I would be perfectly happy to have an extra 100lbs of weight or a restrictive 8" tire size to stay in DP as I think the Miata fits better there. IMHO. Randy /// unsubscribe/change address; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00038.html (8,750 bytes)
9. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Dan Bettis" <danbettis@isoc.net>; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:06:48 -0400; What happen in 20 more years when another car comes along that is even faster than the Miata. Do you protect the old cars again. Is that winning Civic in EP and overdog, or is it the driver that driv; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00039.html (9,992 bytes)
10. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Charles Cox" <charles@coastalbay.com>; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:56:42 -0700; Randy, you're right, except limiting tire size isn't done in any of the classes that I'm aware of...rim size is the limiting factor. Right now at 7" max width, there are at least a few tires availabl; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00041.html (10,219 bytes)
11. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: SOLOMIATA@aol.com; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:17:21 EDT; My thought process was that current cantilever tires come in up to a 9" width on a 7" rim. If the Miata was somehow limited to the 8" cantilevers then that might help the equalization with other cars; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00042.html (9,619 bytes)
12. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: CCoxx@aol.com; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:35:38 EDT; Here is a solution for the Miata AND all the British iron in DP 1: Leave the Miata in DP and let the class rebuild on a new platform with fuel injection and triple adjustable shocks and yes even 10"; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00043.html (9,613 bytes)
13. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Charles Cox" <charles@coastalbay.com>; Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:30:21 -0700; The "8"" Cantilevers are actually indicated 10" wide (section) and 8.4" tread width...(in 15") with better selection in the 13" tires which I would run if going to DP again...this is part of the prob; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00045.html (10,942 bytes)
14. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Smokerbros@aol.com; Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 00:15:46 EDT; Remember that the 2002 Nationals winning DP Miata was 0.5 behind the winning AP time. That car has not taken advantage of all the Prepared allowances, and gets to lose weight when going to AP. I'm no; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00046.html (10,011 bytes)
15. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Smokerbros@aol.com; Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 00:17:56 EDT; As the resident SEB CP member, I'd fight against messing with CP. I won't have to though, the SEB knows better. CHD /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00047.html (9,382 bytes)
16. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: "Steve Hudson" <smhudson@austin.rr.com>; Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 07:37:17 -0500; The second place Corvette had cones on all three runs one day. Without them he would have won by 1.3 seconds, putting the DP Miata behind by 1.8 seconds. That's a lot of time to make up with a little; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00056.html (10,009 bytes)
17. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Smokerbros@aol.com; Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:18:19 EDT; I believe the AP cars are, and I'm absolutely sure that the top DP cars are prepped to the limit. CHD /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.ne; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00058.html (9,287 bytes)
18. Re: Prepared miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Stan Whitney <sd_whitney@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:46:19 -0700 (PDT); Just my 2c (mine alone, not the SEB's), and some more data for thought. When looking at the performance of the winning miata over the last couple of years, keep in mind this was not a 'max effort', c; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00101.html (11,933 bytes)
19. RE: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Andy Hollis <awhollis@swbell.net>; Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 18:54:45 -0500; Agreed. That's what I was driving at. Agreed again. The key is to look at all factors. If *any* is out of whack, it can dominate the overall equation. That's why I brought up Power-to-weight in the; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00104.html (11,031 bytes)
20. Re: Prepared Miata reclassing thoughts (score: 1): Author: Andy Hollis <awhollis@swbell.net>; Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 19:59:51 -0500; seconds, No, that's not what I said. I said that was *incremental* over what a first-rate DP-legal Miata would be. To build said DP-legal Miata in the first place is similar to any first-rate Prepare; /html/autox/2002-10/msg00106.html (13,178 bytes)

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