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Re: Web Results Notification

To: <lollipop@ricochet.net>
Subject: Re: Web Results Notification
From: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:19:44 -0800
Pat,

We'd have to figure it out.

160 names, yes, but we have about 12 hours to enter them all,
assuming you don't have to have the names before the times
are in.  Should be plenty of time!  And of course, many of them
can enter their own names on the web (pre-registration)

You don't save info on the computers except as backup -- you
feed everything onto our web servers from a number of computers,
so it is all integrated in one place naturally.

Say you pre-register on the web, and as a result it prints a timing
sheet (8 1/2 by 11, standard printer size) on your printer,
with a bar code that
uniquely indentifies you.  You sign up for work assignment
and sign a waiver online (yes, this can be done!).  We don't
print out the sheet till you enter "YES", and we capture your
email ID.  We word it so that by presenting your sheet
you agree to the waiver -- so it is binding.

All you need
to do the day of the event is pay your fee, and we scan your code
at that time, which sets you up in the computer as registered.
I suppose we could accept credit cards or pre-payment, too!
"All 16 events for only $320.00 if you act now!"

New folks, they get fresh sheets, with unique bar codes.
They get scanned in, so we know they are entered, and we can
hook their times to the bar-code numbers.  At our leisure
somebody (work assignment) types in the names and info for
these entries, and scans the bar code to associate them with
their times.  By the time all names are entered and all times
are captured or typed in (cones would have to be entered,
for example)  the results could be printed right out!

Or so it says here on the box...

Given the dedicated people, and a well worked out method,
I'm sure it can be done.

Jerry

Jerry Mouton        mailto:jerry@moutons.org    Laissez les bons temps
rouler!

----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Kelly <lollipop@ricochet.net>
To: Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Web Results Notification


> Jerry,
>     It sounds interesting, but are those names pre-entered before the
game? Or
> the day of the event? I don't know how it could be efficient, such as
round 1,
> where we had 160 new names (I didn't keep track for round 3). We could cut
> down on the entries this way, only accepting only pre-entered drivers.
Then we
> could all get six runs apiece...
> --Pat K
>
> Jerry Mouton wrote:
>
> > Carl,
> >
> > I'm not aware that it has been completely rejected.
> > There has been a lot of discussion about an automated
> > system.  I have been doing computer registration stuff
> > for AYSO Soccer, Little League, and SCCA where
> > appropriate for a decade or more, a programmer
> > and/or  web designer for three times that.
> > And I believe that it
> > could be done without too much difficulty --
> > the technical aspects, that is. Our timer system
> > is set up to feed information out pretty well,
> > I believe.
> >
> > The difficulty is the people.  I believe it would take a
> > full-time, skilled, dedicated ever-present administrator
> > to get it working well and shepherd it along for two
> > years or so, till it was refined enought that it could be
> > a work assignment.  Even then it would take a Pat Kelly
> > administering it to make it work.  I'm not willing to commit
> > to do it, not many would, and the club would have to trust to the
> > commitment of the administrator to stay with it till it works.
> > If that person leaves, the club is sort of holding the bag.
> >
> > Given that, if there is someone willing to commit enough
> > time to make a complete system design and work out the details
> > to make a case, I think it could be worth the effort.  I think
> > there would be a number of people who would volunteer to
> > work on the committee.  There
> > are a lot of clubs (including the SFR SCCA racers) who publish
> > results directly from the track on the day of the event.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Jerry Mouton        mailto:jerry@moutons.org    Laissez les bons temps
> > rouler!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Carl Merritt <cmerritt@ati.com>
> > To: 'Jeremy Bergsman' <jeremybb@leland.Stanford.EDU>;
> > Bay_Area_Autocross_List <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 5:00 PM
> > Subject: RE: Web Results Notification
> >
> > > I remember hearing that the barcode idea was researched before in SFR
and
> > > found to have some unworkable limitations.  I think the main problem
was
> > > just registering and processing over 200 cars would over run all
possible
> > > time savings at the starting line...  Can anybody elaborate for me?
> > >
> > > -Carl
>
>


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