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Buck, I live in the southern alps :)
40 Celsius and 2500m. But was doing the same at normal temps and altitudes=
.
Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 22:13 Buck Trippel <bucktrippel@verizon.net>
ha scritto:
> Owain, have you encountered either high outside air temps or high
> altitudes when using Evans in your Tiger?
>
>
>
> Buck
>
>
>
> *From:* Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 2, 2022 8:42 AM
> *To:* LARRY PAULICK <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
> *Cc:* Buck Trippel <bucktrippel@verizon.net>; tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling
>
>
>
> Assuming all those things are done, evans is still not quite up to the jo=
b
> in my car. Most of those cooling tricks are for slow moving car. My car
> ran too hot even at speed with evans and the less than perfect radiator.
> As I said, with a better radiator or with water instead it is fine.
>
>
>
> My reason for preferring brass is that it can be easily soldered. I
> struggled on for a long time with my brass radiator but eventually it was
> just too stress fatigued and needed frequent repair. If I could get a ne=
w
> brass one I would certainly prefer that.
>
>
>
> Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 17:36 LARRY PAULICK <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
> ha scritto:
>
> Another issue is aluminum versus brass radiators. Aluminum radiators are
> lighter but brass transfers heat more efficiently.
>
>
>
> When I redid my tiger, I used a three row versus a stock two row brass
> retaining the top, bottom, and sides so that the fit was not affected.
>
>
>
> Also if you're replacing or having overheating problems, a closed impelle=
r
> type water pump is much more efficient. Some aftermarket companies sell
> them already set up this way, but you can buy just the impeller plate fro=
m
> Summit for a very low price and install it yourself. Pumping efficiency i=
s
> greatly improved.
>
>
>
> TEAE did a study many years ago on all aspects of cooling. This excellent
> engineering study is still applicable today and well worth reading,
> dispelling a lot of myths.
>
>
>
> Another design problem with the tiger is that there is no lower portion o=
f
> the fan shroud. As a result, hot air is removed from the radiator then go=
es
> down to the ground and circles back through the front of the radiator, at
> rest.
>
>
>
> I know this for a fact since I did smoke test and watched the air
> recirculating.
>
>
>
> I fabricated a lower fan shroud from sheet metal, and made a low cost
> plastic air dam that comes down about 4 inches, to help the flow of air
> through the radiator and continue towards the rear of the car while in
> motion.
>
>
>
> Bottom line it all works and I don't overheat.
>
>
>
> I have to laugh at the commentos who keeps saying that the V8 takes up so
> much space that that's why they overheat. Just look at today's cars and h=
ow
> they fill the engine bay and it becomes apparent this is another myth.
>
>
>
> On Jul 2, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yep. I run in most cars with no problems but in the tiger with the 500hp
> motor I needed every bit of efficiency possible so had to switch off even
> back to water and antifreeze. It worked sort of ok with the dale radiato=
r
> but then I switched to another brand radiator and it just couldn=E2=80=99=
t keep the
> temps down. Pretty sure it would be doable with an efficient and lower
> power motor if all the other cooling problems were taken care of.
>
>
>
> Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 16:05 Buck Trippel via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> ha scritto:
>
> In August of the hot summer of 2019 (aren=E2=80=99t they all hot now?) I =
put Evans
> in a Tiger which has an excellent two row aluminum radiator in front of a
> rather stock 289. My wife and I put the Tiger through an almost 5-thousan=
d
> mile road test by driving from Los Angeles to La Crosse via I80/I90 to
> attend the TEAE United and then Route 66 on the way home. Temperatures we=
re
> frequently at 100 degrees. So it got quite a test.
>
>
>
> The Evans did not boil but with hot outside air temperatures its inferior
> specific heat (to water) could not remove adequately remove the engine
> heat.
>
>
>
> The carb got so hot the fuel percolated (boiled) inside the bowls and the
> engine stalled lean. This weakness was exacerbated at altitudes above
> 4-thousand feet. In Pueblo, with OATs near 100 I ended up on the same AAA
> tow truck twice on the same day. I then gave up and reluctantly drained
> maybe half of the the costly coolant out, replacing it with plain water s=
o
> I could get home. However the percolation reoccurred crossing the Mojave =
in
> the 115 degree August temps. At home I replaced the Evans with water,
> adding Water Wetter for corrosion protection.
>
>
>
> I don=E2=80=99t have the numbers off the top of my head but the specific =
heat (or
> ability to transfer heat) of water is 1.00 while Evans is something like
> .65 or only 2/3 that of water. For me, Evans just did not do the job. Fro=
m
> my experience I=E2=80=99d say one would have to be exceptionally brave to=
use it,
> especially with a stock radiator system or with a more powerful engine
> which will place even more demand on the Tiger=E2=80=99s weak cooling sys=
tem. (BTW
> in the Tiger we drove on that trip, we had removed the stock block under
> the carb that hot radiator fluid passes through which probably have made
> even more of a problem.)
>
>
>
> Buck Trippel
>
> Ps I wrote up some of this years ago and I believe it contained a more
> detailed account of Evans heating issues on the trip =E2=80=93 I think it=
was
> published in both the TEAE and CAT newletters.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Dr. T. Y.
> McDowell
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:06 AM
> *To:* Tiger's List <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling
>
>
>
> Is anyone out there in Tigerland using Evans Waterless Coolant?
>
> It has a boiling point of 375 (F). I'd like to hear from anyone who's
> using it as I'm considering it.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Tym McDowell
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Buck, I live in the southern alps :)</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">40 Celsius and 2500m.=C2=A0 But was doing the same at normal temps and a=
ltitudes.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 22:13 Buck Trippel <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:bucktrippel@verizon.net";>bucktrippel@verizon.net</a>> ha scr=
itto:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;bord=
er-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"=
purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_7021759355591503038W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Owain, have you encountered either high=
outside air temps or high altitudes when using Evans in your Tiger?</p></d=
iv></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-w=
rap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_7021759355591503038WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Buck<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=
=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;b=
order-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Owain=
Lloyd <<a href=3D"mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">owain=
.lloyd@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 2, 2022 8:42 AM<br=
><b>To:</b> LARRY PAULICK <<a href=3D"mailto:lpaulick1@verizon.net"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">lpaulick1@verizon.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Buck Trippel <=
<a href=3D"mailto:bucktrippel@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank">bucktrippel@ve=
rizon.net</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Evans Waterles=
s Cooling<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Assuming all those things are done, evans =
is still not quite up to the job in my car.=C2=A0 Most of those cooling tri=
cks are for slow moving car.=C2=A0 My car ran too hot even at speed with ev=
ans and the less than perfect radiator.=C2=A0 As I said, with a better radi=
ator or with water instead it is fine.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My=
reason for preferring brass is that it can be easily soldered.=C2=A0 I str=
uggled on for a long time with my brass radiator but eventually it was just=
too stress fatigued and needed frequent repair.=C2=A0 If I could get a new=
brass one I would certainly prefer that.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 17:36 LARRY PAULICK <<a href=3D"mailto:lpa=
ulick1@verizon.net" target=3D"_blank">lpaulick1@verizon.net</a>> ha scri=
tto:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:none none non=
e solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;mar=
gin-right:0in;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">Another issue is aluminum versus brass radiators.=C2=A0 Aluminum radiato=
rs are lighter but =C2=A0brass transfers heat more efficiently.<u></u><u></=
u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">When I redid my tiger, I used a three row versus a stock t=
wo row brass retaining the top, bottom, and sides so that the fit was not a=
ffected.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also if you're replacing or =
having overheating problems, a closed impeller type water pump is much more=
efficient. Some aftermarket companies sell them already set up this way, b=
ut you can buy just the impeller plate from Summit for a very low price and=
install it yourself. Pumping efficiency is greatly improved.<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">TEAE did a study many years ago on all aspects of cool=
ing. This excellent engineering study is still applicable today and well wo=
rth reading, dispelling a lot of myths.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">A=
nother design problem with the tiger is that there is no lower portion of t=
he fan shroud. As a result, hot air is removed from the radiator then goes =
down to the ground and circles back through the front of the radiator, at r=
est.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know this for a fact since I did s=
moke test and watched the air recirculating.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">I fabricated a lower fan shroud from sheet metal, and made a low cost p=
lastic air dam that comes down about 4 inches, to help the flow of air thro=
ugh the radiator and continue towards the rear of the car while in motion.<=
u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bottom line it all works and I don't =
overheat.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have to laugh at the commento=
s who keeps saying that the V8 takes up so much space that that's why t=
hey overheat. Just look at today's cars and how they fill the engine ba=
y and it becomes apparent this is another myth.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><div><di=
v><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">On Jul 2, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Owain Lloyd <<a href=3D"mailto:ow=
ain.lloyd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a>> wrote:=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></bl=
ockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5=
pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Yep.=C2=A0 I run in most cars wi=
th no problems but in the tiger with the 500hp motor I needed every bit of =
efficiency possible so had to switch off even back to water and antifreeze.=
=C2=A0 It worked sort of ok with the dale radiator but then I switched to a=
nother brand radiator and it just couldn=E2=80=99t keep the temps down. =C2=
=A0 Pretty sure it would be doable with an efficient and lower power motor =
if all the other cooling problems were taken care of.<u style=3D"font-famil=
y:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;f=
ont-family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></=
u>=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-R=
oman,serif">Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 16:05 Buck Trippel via Tigers <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-f=
amily:Times-Roman,serif">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> ha scritto:<u style=
=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,=
serif"></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:none none non=
e solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;mar=
gin-right:0in;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">In A=
ugust of the hot summer of 2019 (aren=E2=80=99t they all hot now?) I put Ev=
ans in a Tiger which has an excellent two row aluminum radiator in front of=
a rather stock 289. My wife and I put the Tiger through an almost 5-thousa=
nd mile road test by driving from Los Angeles to La Crosse via I80/I90 to a=
ttend the TEAE United and then Route 66 on the way home. Temperatures were =
frequently at 100 degrees. So it got quite a test.<u style=3D"font-family:T=
imes-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tim=
es-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u sty=
le=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">The Evans di=
d not boil but with hot outside air temperatures its inferior specific heat=
(to water) could not remove adequately remove the engine heat.=C2=A0<u sty=
le=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roma=
n,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.=
5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roma=
n,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,=
serif">The carb got so hot the fuel percolated (boiled) inside the bowls an=
d the engine stalled lean. This weakness was exacerbated at altitudes above=
4-thousand feet. In Pueblo, with OATs near 100 I ended up on the same AAA =
tow truck twice on the same day. I then gave up and reluctantly drained may=
be half of the the costly coolant out, replacing it with plain water so I c=
ould get home. However the percolation reoccurred crossing the Mojave in th=
e 115 degree August temps. At home I replaced the Evans with water, adding =
Water Wetter for corrosion protection.=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Rom=
an,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"=
font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">I don=E2=80=99t ha=
ve the numbers off the top of my head but the specific heat (or ability to =
transfer heat) of water is 1.00 while Evans is something like .65 or only 2=
/3 that of water. For me, Evans just did not do the job. From my experience=
I=E2=80=99d say one would have to be exceptionally brave to use it, especi=
ally with a stock radiator system or with a more powerful engine which will=
place even more demand on the Tiger=E2=80=99s weak cooling system. (BTW in=
the Tiger we drove on that trip, we had removed the stock block under the =
carb that hot radiator fluid passes through which probably have made even m=
ore of a problem.)<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=
=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=
=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,=
serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5p=
t;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Buck Trippel<u style=3D"font-family:Times-=
Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif">Ps I wrote up some of this years ago and I believe it contained =
a more detailed account of Evans heating issues on the trip =E2=80=93 I thi=
nk it was published in both the TEAE and CAT newletters.<u style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u>=
</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:T=
imes-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tim=
es-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u sty=
le=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bord=
er-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-to=
p-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font=
-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0Tigers <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:T=
imes-Roman,serif">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>=C2=A0<b style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Times-Roman,serif">On Behalf Of=C2=A0</b>Dr. T. Y. McDowell<br><b=
style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Sent:</b>=C2=A0Saturday, July 2, 2=
022 5:06 AM<br><b style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif">To:</b>=C2=A0Tige=
r's List <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><=
b style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Subject:</b>=C2=A0[Tigers] Evans =
Waterless Cooling<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D=
"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=
=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:T=
imes-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Is an=
yone out there in Tigerland using Evans Waterless Coolant?=C2=A0</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"font=
-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">It has a boiling p=
oint of 375 (F).=C2=A0 I'd like to hear from anyone who's using it =
as I'm considering it.=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font=
-family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><=
u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-se=
rif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-=
family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u=
style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
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