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You, bit of anti-freeze to keep the corrosion at bay, and a smidge of =
Red Line water wetter to keep nucleate boiling down ( it is a surfactant =
which increases the water ability to wet the water passage walls. I =
suspect that a higher flow volume and but lower flow rate would help the =
Evans, goo work a bit better. Has to have time to make up the loss of =
heat capacity. And higher vol to keep the temp as cool as it can bee =
cause cold attract heat=E2=80=A6
=20
So to speak
=20
mayf
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 7:29 AM
To: Buck Trippel <bucktrippel@verizon.net>
Cc: Tiger's List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling
=20
Yep. I run in most cars with no problems but in the tiger with the =
500hp motor I needed every bit of efficiency possible so had to switch =
off even back to water and antifreeze. It worked sort of ok with the =
dale radiator but then I switched to another brand radiator and it just =
couldn=E2=80=99t keep the temps down. Pretty sure it would be doable =
with an efficient and lower power motor if all the other cooling =
problems were taken care of.
=20
Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 16:05 Buck Trippel via Tigers =
In August of the hot summer of 2019 (aren=E2=80=99t they all hot now?) I =
put Evans in a Tiger which has an excellent two row aluminum radiator in =
front of a rather stock 289. My wife and I put the Tiger through an =
almost 5-thousand mile road test by driving from Los Angeles to La =
Crosse via I80/I90 to attend the TEAE United and then Route 66 on the =
way home. Temperatures were frequently at 100 degrees. So it got quite a =
test.
=20
The Evans did not boil but with hot outside air temperatures its =
inferior specific heat (to water) could not remove adequately remove the =
engine heat.=20
=20
The carb got so hot the fuel percolated (boiled) inside the bowls and =
the engine stalled lean. This weakness was exacerbated at altitudes =
above 4-thousand feet. In Pueblo, with OATs near 100 I ended up on the =
same AAA tow truck twice on the same day. I then gave up and reluctantly =
drained maybe half of the the costly coolant out, replacing it with =
plain water so I could get home. However the percolation reoccurred =
crossing the Mojave in the 115 degree August temps. At home I replaced =
the Evans with water, adding Water Wetter for corrosion protection.=20
=20
I don=E2=80=99t have the numbers off the top of my head but the specific =
heat (or ability to transfer heat) of water is 1.00 while Evans is =
something like .65 or only 2/3 that of water. For me, Evans just did not =
do the job. From my experience I=E2=80=99d say one would have to be =
exceptionally brave to use it, especially with a stock radiator system =
or with a more powerful engine which will place even more demand on the =
Tiger=E2=80=99s weak cooling system. (BTW in the Tiger we drove on that =
trip, we had removed the stock block under the carb that hot radiator =
fluid passes through which probably have made even more of a problem.)
=20
Buck Trippel
Ps I wrote up some of this years ago and I believe it contained a more =
detailed account of Evans heating issues on the trip =E2=80=93 I think =
it was published in both the TEAE and CAT newletters.
=20
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:06 AM
Subject: [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling
=20
Is anyone out there in Tigerland using Evans Waterless Coolant?=20
It has a boiling point of 375 (F). I'd like to hear from anyone who's =
using it as I'm considering it.=20
=20
Thanks in advance,=20
=20
Tym McDowell=20
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>You, bit of anti-freeze to =
keep the corrosion at bay, and a smidge of Red Line water wetter to keep =
nucleate boiling down ( it is a surfactant which increases the water =
ability to wet the water passage walls. I suspect that a higher flow =
volume and but lower flow rate would help the Evans, goo work a bit =
better. Has to have time to make up the loss of heat capacity. And =
higher vol to keep the temp as cool as it can bee cause cold attract =
heat=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So to speak<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>mayf<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
<tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Owain =
Lloyd<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 2, 2022 7:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> Buck =
Trippel <bucktrippel@verizon.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Tiger's List =
<tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Evans =
Waterless Cooling<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yep. I run in most cars with no problems but in =
the tiger with the 500hp motor I needed every bit of efficiency possible =
so had to switch off even back to water and antifreeze. It worked =
sort of ok with the dale radiator but then I switched to another brand =
radiator and it just couldn=E2=80=99t keep the temps down. Pretty =
sure it would be doable with an efficient and lower power motor if all =
the other cooling problems were taken care =
of.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Il =
giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 16:05 Buck Trippel via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> ha =
scritto:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In August =
of the hot summer of 2019 (aren=E2=80=99t they all hot now?) I put Evans =
in a Tiger which has an excellent two row aluminum radiator in front of =
a rather stock 289. My wife and I put the Tiger through an almost =
5-thousand mile road test by driving from Los Angeles to La Crosse via =
I80/I90 to attend the TEAE United and then Route 66 on the way home. =
Temperatures were frequently at 100 degrees. So it got quite a =
test.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Evans =
did not boil but with hot outside air temperatures its inferior specific =
heat (to water) could not remove adequately remove the engine heat. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The carb =
got so hot the fuel percolated (boiled) inside the bowls and the engine =
stalled lean. This weakness was exacerbated at altitudes above =
4-thousand feet. In Pueblo, with OATs near 100 I ended up on the same =
AAA tow truck twice on the same day. I then gave up and reluctantly =
drained maybe half of the the costly coolant out, replacing it with =
plain water so I could get home. However the percolation reoccurred =
crossing the Mojave in the 115 degree August temps. At home I replaced =
the Evans with water, adding Water Wetter for corrosion protection. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I =
don=E2=80=99t have the numbers off the top of my head but the specific =
heat (or ability to transfer heat) of water is 1.00 while Evans is =
something like .65 or only 2/3 that of water. For me, Evans just did not =
do the job. From my experience I=E2=80=99d say one would have to be =
exceptionally brave to use it, especially with a stock radiator system =
or with a more powerful engine which will place even more demand on the =
Tiger=E2=80=99s weak cooling system. (BTW in the Tiger we drove on that =
trip, we had removed the stock block under the carb that hot radiator =
fluid passes through which probably have made even more of a =
problem.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Buck =
Trippel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ps I wrote =
up some of this years ago and I believe it contained a more detailed =
account of Evans heating issues on the trip =E2=80=93 I think it was =
published in both the TEAE and CAT =
newletters.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Dr. T. Y. McDowell<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:06 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger's List <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Is anyone out there in Tigerland using Evans Waterless Coolant? =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>It has a boiling point of 375 (F). I'd like to hear from anyone =
who's using it as I'm considering it. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Thanks in advance, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Tym McDowell </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
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