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Re: [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling

To: LARRY PAULICK <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling
From: Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 16:49:19 +0200
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That study (whilst very good) doesn=E2=80=99t mention anything about waterl=
ess
coolant though does it?  And that was the original question.

Il giorno dom 3 lug 2022 alle 15:39 LARRY PAULICK <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
ha scritto:

> Dr. M, check the Tigers East Alpine East website or do a web search for
> Tiger Tom and tiger cooling study.  This is a good starting point for
> finding that study, others may have a direct source.
>
> On Jul 3, 2022, at 12:11 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Buck, I live in the southern alps :)
> 40 Celsius and 2500m.  But was doing the same at normal temps and
> altitudes.
>
> Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 22:13 Buck Trippel <bucktrippel@verizon.net=
>
> ha scritto:
>
>> Owain, have you encountered either high outside air temps or high
>> altitudes when using Evans in your Tiger?
>>
>>
>>
>> Buck
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 2, 2022 8:42 AM
>> *To:* LARRY PAULICK <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
>> *Cc:* Buck Trippel <bucktrippel@verizon.net>; tigers@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling
>>
>>
>>
>> Assuming all those things are done, evans is still not quite up to the
>> job in my car.  Most of those cooling tricks are for slow moving car.  M=
y
>> car ran too hot even at speed with evans and the less than perfect
>> radiator.  As I said, with a better radiator or with water instead it is
>> fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> My reason for preferring brass is that it can be easily soldered.  I
>> struggled on for a long time with my brass radiator but eventually it wa=
s
>> just too stress fatigued and needed frequent repair.  If I could get a n=
ew
>> brass one I would certainly prefer that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 17:36 LARRY PAULICK <lpaulick1@verizon.net=
>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>> Another issue is aluminum versus brass radiators.  Aluminum radiators ar=
e
>> lighter but  brass transfers heat more efficiently.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I redid my tiger, I used a three row versus a stock two row brass
>> retaining the top, bottom, and sides so that the fit was not affected.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also if you're replacing or having overheating problems, a closed
>> impeller type water pump is much more efficient. Some aftermarket compan=
ies
>> sell them already set up this way, but you can buy just the impeller pla=
te
>> from Summit for a very low price and install it yourself. Pumping
>> efficiency is greatly improved.
>>
>>
>>
>> TEAE did a study many years ago on all aspects of cooling. This excellen=
t
>> engineering study is still applicable today and well worth reading,
>> dispelling a lot of myths.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another design problem with the tiger is that there is no lower portion
>> of the fan shroud. As a result, hot air is removed from the radiator the=
n
>> goes down to the ground and circles back through the front of the radiat=
or,
>> at rest.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know this for a fact since I did smoke test and watched the air
>> recirculating.
>>
>>
>>
>> I fabricated a lower fan shroud from sheet metal, and made a low cost
>> plastic air dam that comes down about 4 inches, to help the flow of air
>> through the radiator and continue towards the rear of the car while in
>> motion.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bottom line it all works and I don't overheat.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have to laugh at the commentos who keeps saying that the V8 takes up s=
o
>> much space that that's why they overheat. Just look at today's cars and =
how
>> they fill the engine bay and it becomes apparent this is another myth.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep.  I run in most cars with no problems but in the tiger with the 500h=
p
>> motor I needed every bit of efficiency possible so had to switch off eve=
n
>> back to water and antifreeze.  It worked sort of ok with the dale radiat=
or
>> but then I switched to another brand radiator and it just couldn=E2=80=
=99t keep the
>> temps down.   Pretty sure it would be doable with an efficient and lower
>> power motor if all the other cooling problems were taken care of.
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 16:05 Buck Trippel via Tigers <
>> tigers@autox.team.net> ha scritto:
>>
>> In August of the hot summer of 2019 (aren=E2=80=99t they all hot now?) I=
 put
>> Evans in a Tiger which has an excellent two row aluminum radiator in fro=
nt
>> of a rather stock 289. My wife and I put the Tiger through an almost
>> 5-thousand mile road test by driving from Los Angeles to La Crosse via
>> I80/I90 to attend the TEAE United and then Route 66 on the way home.
>> Temperatures were frequently at 100 degrees. So it got quite a test.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Evans did not boil but with hot outside air temperatures its inferio=
r
>> specific heat (to water) could not remove adequately remove the engine
>> heat.
>>
>>
>>
>> The carb got so hot the fuel percolated (boiled) inside the bowls and th=
e
>> engine stalled lean. This weakness was exacerbated at altitudes above
>> 4-thousand feet. In Pueblo, with OATs near 100 I ended up on the same AA=
A
>> tow truck twice on the same day. I then gave up and reluctantly drained
>> maybe half of the the costly coolant out, replacing it with plain water =
so
>> I could get home. However the percolation reoccurred crossing the Mojave=
 in
>> the 115 degree August temps. At home I replaced the Evans with water,
>> adding Water Wetter for corrosion protection.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don=E2=80=99t have the numbers off the top of my head but the specific=
 heat (or
>> ability to transfer heat) of water is 1.00 while Evans is something like
>> .65 or only 2/3 that of water. For me, Evans just did not do the job. Fr=
om
>> my experience I=E2=80=99d say one would have to be exceptionally brave t=
o use it,
>> especially with a stock radiator system or with a more powerful engine
>> which will place even more demand on the Tiger=E2=80=99s weak cooling sy=
stem. (BTW
>> in the Tiger we drove on that trip, we had removed the stock block under
>> the carb that hot radiator fluid passes through which probably have made
>> even more of a problem.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Buck Trippel
>>
>> Ps I wrote up some of this years ago and I believe it contained a more
>> detailed account of Evans heating issues on the trip =E2=80=93 I think i=
t was
>> published in both the TEAE and CAT newletters.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Dr. T. Y.
>> McDowell
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:06 AM
>> *To:* Tiger's List <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* [Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone out there in Tigerland using Evans Waterless Coolant?
>>
>> It has a boiling point of 375 (F).  I'd like to hear from anyone who's
>> using it as I'm considering it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tym McDowell
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">That study (whilst very good) doesn=E2=80=99t mention any=
thing about waterless coolant though does it?=C2=A0 And that was the origin=
al question.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 3 lug 2022 alle 15:39 LARRY PAULICK &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:lpaulick1@verizon.net";>lpaulick1@verizon.net</a>&gt; ha scrit=
to:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border=
-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break=
:after-white-space">Dr. M,=20
check the Tigers East Alpine East website or do a web search for Tiger Tom =
and tiger cooling study.=C2=A0 This is a good starting point for finding th=
at study, others may have a direct source.</div><div style=3D"word-wrap:bre=
ak-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div>On Jul 3, 2022, at 12:11 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:owai=
n.lloyd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</=
div><br><div><div dir=3D"auto">Buck, I live in the southern alps :)</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">40 Celsius and 2500m.=C2=A0 But was doing the same at norma=
l temps and altitudes.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 22:13 Buck Trippel=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bucktrippel@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank">bucktripp=
el@verizon.net</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-styl=
e:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang=3D"E=
N-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Owain, have you encountered either high outside air te=
mps or high altitudes when using Evans in your Tiger?</p></div></div><div l=
ang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Buck<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:=
3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>Fr=
om:</b> Owain Lloyd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank">owain.lloyd@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 2, 20=
22 8:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> LARRY PAULICK &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lpaulick1@veri=
zon.net" target=3D"_blank">lpaulick1@verizon.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Buck=
 Trippel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bucktrippel@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank">b=
ucktrippel@verizon.net</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] E=
vans Waterless Cooling<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Assuming all those things are=
 done, evans is still not quite up to the job in my car.=C2=A0 Most of thos=
e cooling tricks are for slow moving car.=C2=A0 My car ran too hot even at =
speed with evans and the less than perfect radiator.=C2=A0 As I said, with =
a better radiator or with water instead it is fine.<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">My reason for preferring brass is that it can be easily soldered=
.=C2=A0 I struggled on for a long time with my brass radiator but eventuall=
y it was just too stress fatigued and needed frequent repair.=C2=A0 If I co=
uld get a new brass one I would certainly prefer that.<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 17:36 LARRY PAULICK &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:lpaulick1@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank">lpaulick1@verizon.net<=
/a>&gt; ha scritto:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-styl=
e:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin=
-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">Another issue is aluminum versus brass radiators.=C2=A0 A=
luminum radiators are lighter but =C2=A0brass transfers heat more efficient=
ly.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">When I redid my tiger, I used a three row v=
ersus a stock two row brass retaining the top, bottom, and sides so that th=
e fit was not affected.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also if you&#39;r=
e replacing or having overheating problems, a closed impeller type water pu=
mp is much more efficient. Some aftermarket companies sell them already set=
 up this way, but you can buy just the impeller plate from Summit for a ver=
y low price and install it yourself. Pumping efficiency is greatly improved=
.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">TEAE did a study many years ago on all =
aspects of cooling. This excellent engineering study is still applicable to=
day and well worth reading, dispelling a lot of myths.<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Another design problem with the tiger is that there is no lo=
wer portion of the fan shroud. As a result, hot air is removed from the rad=
iator then goes down to the ground and circles back through the front of th=
e radiator, at rest.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know this for a fa=
ct since I did smoke test and watched the air recirculating.<u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">I fabricated a lower fan shroud from sheet metal, and m=
ade a low cost plastic air dam that comes down about 4 inches, to help the =
flow of air through the radiator and continue towards the rear of the car w=
hile in motion.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bottom line it all works=
 and I don&#39;t overheat.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have to laug=
h at the commentos who keeps saying that the V8 takes up so much space that=
 that&#39;s why they overheat. Just look at today&#39;s cars and how they f=
ill the engine bay and it becomes apparent this is another myth.<u></u><u><=
/u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></=
div><div><div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Jul 2, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Owain Lloyd &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:owain.lloyd@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">owain.lloyd@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><div><blockquote sty=
le=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Yep.=C2=A0 I r=
un in most cars with no problems but in the tiger with the 500hp motor I ne=
eded every bit of efficiency possible so had to switch off even back to wat=
er and antifreeze.=C2=A0 It worked sort of ok with the dale radiator but th=
en I switched to another brand radiator and it just couldn=E2=80=99t keep t=
he temps down. =C2=A0 Pretty sure it would be doable with an efficient and =
lower power motor if all the other cooling problems were taken care of.<u s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Ro=
man,serif"></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"font-family:Tim=
es-Roman,serif"></u>=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></=
span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;f=
ont-family:Times-Roman,serif">Il giorno sab 2 lug 2022 alle 16:05 Buck Trip=
pel via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; style=3D"font-f=
amily:Times-Roman,serif" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; ha=
 scritto:<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-st=
yle:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;marg=
in-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-=
Roman,serif">In August of the hot summer of 2019 (aren=E2=80=99t they all h=
ot now?) I put Evans in a Tiger which has an excellent two row aluminum rad=
iator in front of a rather stock 289. My wife and I put the Tiger through a=
n almost 5-thousand mile road test by driving from Los Angeles to La Crosse=
 via I80/I90 to attend the TEAE United and then Route 66 on the way home. T=
emperatures were frequently at 100 degrees. So it got quite a test.<u style=
=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,=
serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5p=
t;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,=
serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,se=
rif">The Evans did not boil but with hot outside air temperatures its infer=
ior specific heat (to water) could not remove adequately remove the engine =
heat.=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-=
family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-=
family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-fa=
mily:Times-Roman,serif">The carb got so hot the fuel percolated (boiled) in=
side the bowls and the engine stalled lean. This weakness was exacerbated a=
t altitudes above 4-thousand feet. In Pueblo, with OATs near 100 I ended up=
 on the same AAA tow truck twice on the same day. I then gave up and reluct=
antly drained maybe half of the the costly coolant out, replacing it with p=
lain water so I could get home. However the percolation reoccurred crossing=
 the Mojave in the 115 degree August temps. At home I replaced the Evans wi=
th water, adding Water Wetter for corrosion protection.=C2=A0<u style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font=
-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"=
></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">I=
 don=E2=80=99t have the numbers off the top of my head but the specific hea=
t (or ability to transfer heat) of water is 1.00 while Evans is something l=
ike .65 or only 2/3 that of water. For me, Evans just did not do the job. F=
rom my experience I=E2=80=99d say one would have to be exceptionally brave =
to use it, especially with a stock radiator system or with a more powerful =
engine which will place even more demand on the Tiger=E2=80=99s weak coolin=
g system. (BTW in the Tiger we drove on that trip, we had removed the stock=
 block under the carb that hot radiator fluid passes through which probably=
 have made even more of a problem.)<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,seri=
f"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,seri=
f">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Buck Trippel<u style=3D=
"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,ser=
if"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;f=
ont-family:Times-Roman,serif">Ps I wrote up some of this years ago and I be=
lieve it contained a more detailed account of Evans heating issues on the t=
rip =E2=80=93 I think it was published in both the TEAE and CAT newletters.=
<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Time=
s-Roman,serif"></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u sty=
le=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roma=
n,serif"></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.=
5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roma=
n,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><div=
><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3p=
t 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif">=C2=A0Tigers=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"font-family:=
Times-Roman,serif" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
=C2=A0<b style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif">On Behalf Of=C2=A0</b>Dr. =
T. Y. McDowell<br><b style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Sent:</b>=C2=
=A0Saturday, July 2, 2022 5:06 AM<br><b style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,se=
rif">To:</b>=C2=A0Tiger&#39;s List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif">Subject:</b=
>=C2=A0[Tigers] Evans Waterless Cooling<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,=
serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p></div>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Ti=
mes-Roman,serif">=C2=A0<u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u st=
yle=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(51,51,51)">Is anyone out there in Tigerland using Evans Waterless Coola=
nt?=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,ser=
if"><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:=
Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)=
">It has a boiling point of 375 (F).=C2=A0 I&#39;d like to hear from anyone=
 who&#39;s using it as I&#39;m considering it.=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"font-family:Time=
s-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fami=
ly:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"font-family:Times=
-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Thanks in advance,=C2=A0</span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Times-Roman,serif"><u style=3D"=
font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,seri=
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"></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
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 style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman,serif"></u><u style=3D"font-family:Times-=
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