You're welcome.
--Pat K
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>From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
>To: Pat Kelly <lollipop487@home.com>
>Cc: Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org>, Bay_Area_Autocross_List
<ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Preregistration and computerized timing/scoring
>Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2001, 8:42 PM
>
>True, but once in place, it becomes less an issue.
>
>And thanks for explaining the technical issues, instead of just claiming
>"duh".
>
>:^)
>
>On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Pat Kelly wrote:
>
>> To do a proper set of results, you not only need the name, but also address,
>> (hometown), car (year) and all that other stuff. If the name's already on
>> the database, it's easy, but class needs to be checked, etc. Change of
>> address, also.
>> According to the rule book, the results should list all kinds of stuff,
>> including car, hometown, car #, and we even put in the sponsors. There's
>> probably some other stuff, like nationals & tours list tires, regions,
>> divisions, etc.
>> It all takes time.
>> --Pat K
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>> >From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
>> >To: Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org>
>> >Cc: Bay_Area_Autocross_List <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>> >Subject: Re: Preregistration and computerized timing/scoring
>> >Date: Mon, Nov 5, 2001, 7:51 PM
>> >
>>
>> >> Geoff,
>> >>
>> >> Sure it does! If you register 200 entrants at the same
>> >> slow pace, it takes twice as long! Two minutes a person,
>> >> you're talking 6 3/4 hours! And I think our current time
>> >> to register someone gets almost that long now without
>> >> computer problems. And in summer we get 300.
>> >---
>> >You really think it would take 2 minutes to enter someones name in a
>> >computer?
>> >
>> >> I see that you don't show up on SFR points at all in 2001,
>> >> perhaps you are not familiar with actually running a
>> >> big event.
>> >---
>> >Jerry, what you think when youre going to attack me based on
>> >"participation" doesnt concern me. When SFR stops asking for ideas,
>> >I'll stop giving them. What the hell does my input about ideas..have to
>> >do with my participation? Would showing up to 50 events in a row make
>> >what I have to say as an idea make it any more valid? NO!
>> >
>> >Just darn well explain in this public forum why you think active
>> >participation has squat to do with trying to help. Because you made a
>> >clear shot at equating participation with involvement in the region. And
>> >while that may be true in many position in regional and event management,
>> >it clearly has no basis in -here- as a measure of relevance. Im a paying
>> >SCCA member, and Ive said nothing to deserve personal criticism about a
>> >point of view about an open topic. I let thousands of threads pass here,
>> >but rarely do I speak up with what I think. I guess its OK for the region
>> >to take my yearly dues, but im still not entitled to a simple opinion?
>> >
>> >When you decide to start debating ideas instead of arbitrarily discounting
>> >them because someone hasnt participated to -your- liking..then yours will
>> >matter to me or anyone else in the same position.
>> >Youre a great posterchild for not even wanting to pay dues to the SCCA/SFR
>> >region anymore Jerry. Can you spell "Alienate"?
>> >
>> >> Guess you're right, I'm scared of these new ideas, but that's
>> >> what happens when you actually spend time implementing.
>> >---
>> >Dont get into PR as a day job Jerry, and I wont get into database
>> >work..because I dont know it. I just placed what I thought was an idea,
>> >that Ive seen work in other places. You surely could have explain why it
>> >wont work here rather than come out both barrels loaded for bear. I dont
>> >have your experience with it. Imagine now how people on the list with
>> >similar ideas now feel "Wow, better keep my mouth shut, these people dont
>> >care to hear it anyway".
>> >
>> >If you want to discuss it..thats fine, if you dont, thats fine..just that
>> >you have no right to dismiss me and cut me off at the knees for even
>> >trying.
>> >
>> >I said anything at all, because I do care. We both pay our dues even if
>> >we dont participate because we care.
>> >
>> >When people stop caring..be afriad. Its the only thing that keeps the
>> >sport alive.
>>
>
>---
>Geoff Mohler
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